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Edited by Instant Karma 88:
10/31/2015 7:14:09 AM
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Why is the raid Hand Cannon so awful?
Seriously. This thing is so bad, i got a decent roll with firefly so i thought, eh what the heck Ill try it out...
Now Ill admit it looks badass and the reload animation is very cool, but wow... just, wow.
Absolutely no range, longest reload ever, even with gloves perk.
I compared it to my Imago Loop, and its significantly worse in every category besides fire rate (which it's close).
This is supposed to be Endgame Loot? And on top of the massively overdone nerf to hand cannon effective range, it,s basically uselesz, especially in the Crucible.
Is this how Bungie wanted things with the latest weapon balance patch? Hawkmoon and TLW being the only really solid HCs?
Edit: Basically, the raid weapons are mostly mediocre (with the exception of the LMG and the pulse and the scout). They were apparently all designed to showcase this brilliant new perk cocoon, even though it can be made obsolete with better weapons/ strategies.
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Edited by LiL Ray: 11/1/2015 2:11:17 PMWhile I don't disagree that the reload rate is atrocious, I will say that it is the only primary raid weapon that I've kept ahold of. When paired with hand cannon reload gloves, a raid sniper and a raid machine gun it can be very effective (the cacoon perk can be your friend if you're using it on all 3 of your weapons). Now, if I could only get one with firefly... (Edit) - it's unfortunate that you have to kill the stability to give it the extra bit of range it's capable of, however with the amount of aim assist that it has, it's not such a bad thing.
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4 RepliesThey took out elemental primaries, so once black ops 3 comes out I'm outie
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[quote]Why are the Raid weapons so awful?[/quote]
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I fused mine to another weapon its shit
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1 ReplyEdited by Forever277: 10/31/2015 7:52:38 AMCocoon is shank burn by another name as far as I'm concerned Useless perk, and the worst part is that it takes up a primary perk node, it should be an 'always on' secondary node like hive or oracle disrupter I'm not impressed with the raid weapons at all, have no drive to get them and idgaf about the raid because of it. I'm not even going to get into the truly awful drop rates, the random perk rolls and the random light level and lack of elemental burn. Only useful thing is they do extra damage to taken, but vanguard weapons can come with that perk, so, lame all around. And stfu, don't even reply with that bullshit about how great it is to not reload to get higher dps on boss fights, nonsense, spray and play/outlaw + a reload perk on gauntlets beats the shit out of cocoon, and it takes forever to kick in. Most people are using spindles, ToM and sleeper simulant on the bosses anyway because they are far and away higher damage Totally agree with the op
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23 RepliesThis raid, along with it's loot system is garbage. Ran a hard mode on my titan. Got only shards on every drop. Fallout 4 cannot arrive soon enough
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5 RepliesI have kept the scout, it's alright but on the two that have dropped for me I got bad rolls, so not that impressed. Kept the lmg and launcher for now. Immediately infused shotgun/sniper/fusion into Telesto, black spindle and 1000 ys.
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All the raid weapons are underwhelming for the most part compared to other legendaries. These are be game weapons and should feel like it. Cocoon is not an excuse as there aren't many times I want to switch between primary and secondary.
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2 RepliesYou think that's bad? The auto rifle is ungodly. The recoil is crazy, trying to control it makes it worse. There are very few good perks you can get, it is not good for the raid due to the insanely unreliable ability to hit critical points, and I get it all the time! I would kill for the hand cannon tbh
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1 ReplyGot one at 304, loved it, until I realized my 299 imago did higher crits...
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Personally i find all kings fall weapons garbage. The only good one is quimms terminus and i cant say anything about the sniper since i have yet to get one.
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Infusion fuel
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Hand cannons are no longer meta in any mode weather it's pve or PVP. PVP meta is pulse rifles and pve is scouts.
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Used it to upgrade my supercell.
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7 RepliesI have it with Firefly and a range boost. Pretty good hand Cannon, if you ask me.
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Why are you awful.
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Raid hand cannon is amazing your bugged out
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I said the same about the trials one lol
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With the exception of the machine gun most raid weapons seem to fall in the 2nd tier of there respective type. The pulse rifle is only worth keeping if it's rolled firefly since it's the only pulse rifle I've seen with that perk.
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So that Anguish of Drystan could have a buddy.
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I'm not a hand canon user, but I haven't come across any that kinda interest me. I've had the Hawkawesome for a few weeks & haven't even equipped it yet...
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If you rotate weapons right you should never have to reload.
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1 ReplyI infused mine into my hung jury
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It takes a goddamn week to reload. Period.
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It's amazing with gunslingers trance and chains of woe
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Infusion material, lol.
