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Edited by Lull9:
10/28/2015 2:25:59 AM
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It's almost like Bungie doesn't want you to raid anymore...
I'm getting really sick of the garbage loot drops in King's Fall...
I'm fine with loot drops being rare-ish IF the gear is max light.
I'm fine with gear being below max light IF loot drops are common.
Having rare-ish drops for below max light is utterly stupid and I feel like quite a few people are getting completely discouraged from continuing to waste their time on the raid. It's almost completely -blam!-ing useless to get something that's 312 light. That's if you're LUCKY enough to get anything at all. On top of that, stats and perks are random so there's yet another layer of RNG. It's possible to get a 320 piece of armor that is not at all worthwhile because it has garbage stats (disc/str, auto/fusion ammo, arc armor chest for a Titan for example)
It feels like I'll still be 315 by the next DLC and then 320 will probably be the new 170... I really enjoy the game and want to continue playing but it is absolutely miserable grinding for basically nothing. I'm starting to feel like a sucker for continuing to try because obviously Bungie has made a conscious decision to stack the RNG deck against us (worse than ever before) to artificially increase play time.
How about a reply Cozmo? Let's improve this...
EDIT: I went from 308 to 310 on my main the first week of hard mode. I just finished a full run on my main and... went from 310 to... 310.
Sure, I could maybe be 311 or 312 if I sacrificed the two mediocre pieces on my other two characters, but it's still pretty shitty.
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Why the hell would PPP choose "I want to raid for 2 months to be 315" Like wtf?
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1 ReplyYou're not alone. This is the sentiment that more than half of the community is expressing. Anyone who is actually in love with the grind has problems, because I can't see any twist where the grind itself is fun. Raiding is fun - when you don't have to worry about what drops because you're already maxed out.
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Same I did hard mode the other day and didn't get any drops form the war priest and daughters including moldering shards.
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2 RepliesMy friend is already 315
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2 RepliesI beat normal mode yesterday and only got a 305 chest piece up till oryx. Once we beat him I got 2 auto rifles, another chest piece, and another hand canon. All duplicates and all lesser than the ones I got before. No way to progress when you only get lower duplicates.
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I honestly rather go back to the VOG drops. like hard mode only drops 320 and normal would be like 300 or something like that.
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I'm probably going to beat HM once then hang it up for a while.
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8 RepliesSomewhere around .2% of the player base has beaten the hard raid. Needless to say, from a game creator standpoint this is very wrong. Too small of the community is doing a large portion of the game. The poor RNG combined with low level loot from the raid is creating very slow progression for most people. If the bungie team wants people to play the hard raid and continue playing, we need more of a reason. Personally I'm done playing the raid for an hour and a half when I have a busy schedule and getting no loot. It's been TWO MONTHS, and I've done the raid once a week since it was out and I have light level 300 arms and a 308 smite to show for it.
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2 RepliesEtheric light was the best overall light leveling system in destiny yet... Infusion is super frustrating.
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3 RepliesOP is the same person, hitting 320 in week one, who would come crying on the forums about how there's nothing to do.
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1 ReplyEdited by VoxNovo: 10/26/2015 5:58:20 PMI have to admit the drops do seem bad. I've completed 14 full KF raids (plus more checkpoints and partial raids), and have never seen a helmet, didn't get a ghost for about the first 8-9 raids, etc. Far too many moldering shards (which only turn into...more moldering shards). I play for fun and am not super worried about needing to "max out right away", but the drops do seem anti-climatic and not very rewarding / satisfying. (Not as bad as Skolas, though!)
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1 ReplyEdited by Zoey: 10/26/2015 4:09:56 PMWhat needs to happen with the loot is this: If I have a pair of 305 boots, nothing under 306 boots can drop for me, so I can only progress, same goes for class items, armour, weapons and ghost shells. You should never receive raid gear lower than your current raid gear, but that's just my view Edit: Should clarify, before anyone has a go at me, you only get gear up to max level for that mode, never above. However this would allow you to infuse other things. Got a 310 ghost? Awesome, have another one from normal mode, go infuse another ghost shell, etc
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1 ReplyEveryone should have long ago noticed how Bungie hides more and more grinding behind as they call it "smart loot system". The loot and grinding should always be in favor of the player. I asumed Bungie did learn from the Blizzard meeting a few months ago... They sadly did not learn shit. Terrible weapon balancing (are you using Hawkmoon? Funny guy... let me two-burst you with my Hawksaw in 3 seconds), a complete Iron Banner disaster, having in every corner of patrols and mission a invisible wall preventing ppl from jumping to high and yet forgetting to add it on Vertigo (srsly what the -blam!-?)... Iam calling it right now... Trials loot will drop once every 20 wins if you are lucky lol. Taken King was a good step forward, but not a big leap at all. The worst is that I still feel like a beta tester. I pray to god that Ubisoft wont fu*k up Division and that No Mans Sky will deliver, but Iam a realist and my hopes are close to zero... From ppl that played Division during E3 and Gamescon I heard that the game is very linear and will bore fast. No Mans Sky can be a gem, but Iam not sure if constantly being alone exploring planets will keep me entertained for long enough after I saw the latest gameplay... It seemed very average and the lack of any PVP makes it even more boring for my taste. Well I hope I can name my discoveries Penisraptor and T-penis-Rex or Vaginalosaurus.
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3 RepliesIn about 15 raids I haven't seen a single raid helmet drop. At this rate it could be several months before I get a 320 helmet on each character. Probably won't happen before the next dlc is out. It's worse than forever 29. Can you imagine finally getting the last piece of VoG armor and having it randomly drop at 29? Reward isn't worth the grind. It's like they don't actually learn from their mistakes. They did a great job of giving exotics a well defined path to obtain them and then gave the raid the worst rng system yet.
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It's terrible
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Edited by sergeantsnipes05: 10/26/2015 5:59:51 PMWent in a 310 Titan. Came out a 310 Titan.if 3oC dropped at 320 once you were 310 it wouldn't be as big of a deal
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7 RepliesHard mode just came out and your crying? Drop quality can be less than desirable for all of us. It's random, so sometimes you have stretches of bad luck. We all do. Crying like an entitled baby with short stories for posts wont help you.
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My leg armor has dropped at 302,303,305, and 308. It's bs lol.
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I agree with op its getting to be burn out phase soon in here. If the time and effort is not rewarded why do it. Even a gambler knows if you play enuff you will win eventually. Bungie seems to have squashed even that with the bs grind and loot drop system in here. People play to find better gear but after hours upon hours of constant let downs you get fed up. Something has to give and I bet it will be the players first bungie.
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What kills me is they do not have element burns on the weapons so people will use other weapons. But the only weapons with the correct light are raid weapons. So everyone is still using the same weapons. No variety. Also, besides the raid, nothing is worth doing. All the drops are worthless unless it is raid gear.
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Biased poll is biased. Some people just don't have what it takes I guess.
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Too much bias get downvoted op
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every time ive seen war priest he gave me shards and you're talkin 320 i cant even get a drop anywhere to make me 307. ive went through normal and gotten nothing but shards a few time now. i can agree with the RnG issues but as a week 2 guardian im kinda used to how RnG treats its guardians so no suprise on getting no drops here. it just sucks.
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Edited by Excardon: 10/26/2015 5:47:01 PMYeah it's a bit of BS. If light is random then loot should be guaranteed. Having both makes it even harder and less likely than even getting what you needed out of VoG and Crota. At least if I was getting a drop out of them, I'd have max level for that drop. Yes I had to get materials, but they weren't that hard to come by. I got TTK based on the promises of the VidDoc of Bungie employees stating that they were going to make things more streamlined and easier to level up. Clearly they did not. I've been a supporter of Bungie for years. This is disappointing to say the least. I understand this is a new frontier they are working on but I would have guessed with all the investment Activision has in them, Bungie would be provided with some insight from the people who brought you WoW, Diablo, etc, etc. Or maybe they did and the advise was poor. I don't know, but really this is a fool me twice situation and I'll wait until about 6 months into Destiny 2 before making another purchase. :(
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4 RepliesBiased poll is biased. Like everything in the game RNG makes or breaks loot. I personally was happy with what I got in the raid. Obviously some people didn't.
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I've gotten a few good drops, just keep infusing them into what I run, use Exotic farming to supplement raid items, pretty close to having two characters be 306/307, not in a rush for hard mode, just like having fun with my friends, if that means it will be 3 months before I try hard mode well then I can finish quests, collect the special items along the way that come out, only missing the supercell as far as exotics go. Besides each go in the raid just means I'll know it backwards and forwards so when the time does come it's fun like normal mode.
