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So is the hard mode actually pointless?

There's a lot of people saying some things, one being that the hard mode raid isn't giving anything new besides higher gear and what I can only assume the ship. Is this true?
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  • I was the luckiest player in our raid team yesterday went in at 310 on my hunter came out at 313 and that was just from Glyph warpriest golgoroth and sisters oryx gave me a shitty 312 shotgun. Ad also was lucky I got 310 gauntlets from the exotic chest

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  • They killed this game with infusion and crap drops. And the not so duplicate loot table that gives me more duplicates than ever. Destiny needs a little less tyson green.

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    Well...this post got a lil more attention than I would have petered it to lol, but thanks anyway guys. Note: I did try to edit it several times early on to acknowledge my understanding of the new hard mode but for some reason it would let me at all, oh well :).

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  • 312 rocket launcher 315 cloak 319 gloves And all that just from Warpriest Gorgoroth Daughters. Squad had 2 307's by oryx so we called it but got my hunter from 308-310 and I still have 308 chest and 298 helmet. I'd say if you don't care about clearing hard raid with some ease every week it's not worth it but if you play a lot you will probably want to hard raid.

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  • Edited by Moonglow89: 10/25/2015 3:08:35 PM
    The loot table is really poor to incentivize grinding it over and over, but it's not really worth it if you're just trying to be a certain level. (Note that I have the HM emblem on.) It's a challenge for bragging rights, at this point. RNG seems to be screwing many people over. They need a point-reward system that gives out loot based on hidden effort values. Golgoroth, for example: Did most damage to Golgoroth? You get +1 on roll. Did x amount of damage per gaze? Everyone gets +3 on their roll. Gaze grabber held it for x amount of seconds? +2 to roll. Gaze grabber didn't take any Rage damage? +2 to roll. This means a Gaze grabber would get 317-320 gear on Golgoroth for a team using all 6 orbs and never taking damage from Golgoroth's Rage.

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    • 302 ghost shell 304 midha's reckoning 310 defiance of Yasmin 310 harrowed defiance of Yasmin 302 chest piece 310 harrowed chest piece 304 class item 305 some other thing My average light level did not go up. At all.

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      • Most of the gear [b][i][u]looks[/u][/i][/b] a lot better. Got the Cape sniper and gauntlets last night and they look dope AF I'll keep doing hardmode just for the cool gear of nothing else

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        • Like every raid? Yeah

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        • Bungie is Life! AMA

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        • Edited by A KOOL POP TART: 10/25/2015 1:18:05 PM
          I'd do it just so I can infuse the 320 raid gear with my titan gear

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        • got 310+ weapons and armor from killing hard oryx 3x. that's beneficial.

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          • No point in getting gear for end game activities because the only activity we have left till next dlc is trials and that'll get stale fast so I won't bother with it again

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            • Only worth it for me if trials has a larger damage differential between light levels. If it's the same as iron banner I'm not gonna sweat it.

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              • This is how MMO endgame works; you raid to get the better gear, so your next raid is easier, until you have the best gear, then you take that into the new endgame, and repeat. No, there is no point to the hard raid except to be a higher light level for other raids/ToO/IB, but without that point, the entire game has no point.

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                • So is running the raid after you get one of each gun pointless?

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                  • In the grand scheme of things, it's all pointless. In the cosmic scheme of things, life itself is pointless. It's all what you make of it.

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                    • If you have fun, then no, its not

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                    • Edited by W4TCHMYTR4CER: 10/25/2015 7:24:18 AM
                      Went from 301 to 306 in one raid run upto Orx, and that is without a raid drop at the daughters as had already done nm. Got 312 shell, 316 chest peice and 320 rocket launcher, on my hunter ..worth it at the moment for sure!! And will be necessary if u want to move onto epic mode later on.

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                    • Hate to admit this.... But other then to raise my light.. There isn't anything to chase.. A reward for all the hard work?

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                      • My 2 hard mode runs (both stopped at oryx) : Raid gauntlets 310, boots 313, sniper 311, shell 318, shotty 314. I'll update after I kill oryx on both. Seems worth it to me though I went from 305 to 311 today

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                      • Is anything really pointless?

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                        • Edited by RAVEN: 10/24/2015 9:57:43 PM
                          No elemental primary = pointless to me... I don't care about having the right light to go for more raids... I want my elemental primaries to take out certain enemies faster at the same time having a unique factor in the weapon rather than it being a kinetic projectile like any other weapons...

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                          • Feels like a repeat of when normal raid came out. I feel bad for people that grinder so hard to get to 310 I went from 307 with 4 raid completions to 311 in an hour lol

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                          • Everything involving video games is pointless.

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                            • Fun.

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                            • Naa Got to 313 today beating Oryx. That's just RNG. Just make sure you complete normal first. If you don't normal can still drop on hard

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