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Edited by The 75th Zebra:
10/9/2015 2:42:35 AM
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Shotgun nerf is starting to get out of hand
Nerfing shotguns because of crucible is starting to become really disgusting. Just because they are powerful in crucible, doesn't mean they are overpowered on PvE. Actually, they are pretty weak, useless in crota, useless in vog, and useless in oryx (especially oryx) and I don't think bungie realizes this. They are so caught up in the crucible kids complaining, they don't realize that's only helping them, and severely impacting PvE. They are becoming weaker and weaker every day now. Some of them require the best perks to even be considered decent. Bungie, all I ask is you take a step back and focus on the game as a whole, not just PVP. Also wanted to point out there's a chance you might get knee pads in the new update. That's just stupid. Also bungie heads up The Chaperone still sucks. But hey, I understand, giving players knee pads is more important.
[b][i]EDIT:[/i][/b] so for all the crucible kids who don't know how shot package will effect PvE, that's not the main point. The main point is that shotguns are getting hammered over and over again, and it's starting to affect PvE. Shot package can be very useful. It can make it so crits are easier to hit. My conspiracy theory can't 1 shot a level 8 captain when I have 301 light and it has 300 damage, even if it's mostly head shots. That's ridiculous.shot package helps all bullets hit crits, thus successfully obtaining a kill
[b][i]EDIT:[/i][/b] so we're trending now, and but hurt has been summoned. Glad to see everyone's opinions overall though :)
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Oddly enough none of my raid teams have ever really used shotguns in PVE... I guess I could understand using one for goofing off, or random elites in patrol, but it shouldn't effect PVE too much anyway because in the majority of PVE situations a sniper rifle is your most effective weapon.
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Edited by Bye Felicia: 10/9/2015 4:37:21 PMLet's be honest here. You're just mad your PvP shotgun is getting taken away. I have NEVER cried about shotguns yet I don't mind one bit about the nerf. -Full auto -life support -crowd control -close and/or personal -grenadier All of these are better pve perks than shot package. Also did you forget shotguns currently have a huge damage buff in pve? Did you forget to read the part where Bungie says that removing shot package didn't negatively affect pve? Want to know why? [b]Shot package is not a pve perk.[/b]
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2 RepliesI like steak burritos.
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2 RepliesIf i have a shotty out for PvE it's ONLY for the t3 enemies (knights, captains, minotaurs, etc). Its a shield breaker and does massive damage
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That's funny because the shotguns I use for PvE seem to wreck just fine, lol. Sorry you can't OHK enemies anymore? I think there's this phrase the kids are using... "git gud" lolololol.
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2 RepliesI brought the bucket, now gimme your tears. Make sure you blink/slide towards mah bucket before depositing tears.
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1 ReplyJust stick to killing Artificial Intelligence. Us, truly Legend players who take advantage of everything this game has to offer will kill AI's and other minds controlling guardians... (where the real strategy begins) P.S. The Chaperone is amazing. P.P.S. If you're using shot package in PvE, you're doing it wrong. Use Crowd Control or Full Auto.
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bungie's weapon balancing is really weird. on the one hand they nerf shotguns hard, on the other they hand a high impact shotgun with rangefinder and reinforced barrel (conspiracy theory d) to everyone. AND many new maps are crazy close quarters. removing shot package will change nothing at all in the game's meta.
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Maybe if Bungie would stop designing so many CQC maps, shotguns wouldn't be much of an issue. As it stands right now, you can still beast with a shotgun that doesn't have shot package. This nerf isn't going to solve the problem. They are still super deadly. The only way to make them seem less OP is to open up the maps. I don't know if they are designing small maps because that is their goal or because they are lazy, but that seems to be all they are pushing out. We need large maps.
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I like it. Shotguns need to be situational not go to.
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3 RepliesShotgun balance has been separated between PVE and PVP for 8 months now. Please quit crying. You are killing ai weapon balance doesn't really matter
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Looks like youll have to actually use a primary, panzee hunter. Cant hug the felwinter anymore boy
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I'll agree that PvP nerfs shouldn't affect PvE but I'll also add in that shot package isn't nearly as important in PvE as I think you think it is. To me Rangefinder (or range on a shotgun in general) is way more important. Also, every special weapon is useless on Oryx once you have a touch of malice. I basically just swap between primary and heavy at this point.
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Because people bitch and complain that they can't get shit handed to them. Don't want to use they head to counter. All these people made it to the lighthouse...with no problem... Folks need to use they head
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You mean people wont be rushing with shotguns 90% of the whole game? *Cries of joy*
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2 RepliesHahaha butthurt crutch users don't know what to use in Iron banner and ToO now xD git gud scrubs
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8 RepliesI never understood why they don't have separate nerfs and buffs for pvp and pve separately. Lets say you have this awesome monster shotgun that wrecks a hydra at sniper range but when you bring it to crucible, its toned down to what makes it "fair". In other words..."nerfing" it for pvp only.
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They need to separate PVE and PVP when it comes to shot guns
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2 RepliesThey said in their tests it didn't effect pve Moving on
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My invective and Patch A are doing great in PvE and they don't have shot package. They'll be fine.
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How about they just make a playlist that bans shotguns.. I'm pretty sure most of the people who complain would rather just play without them availible.
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They said that they didn't see a noticeable effect in pve from this nerf. I agree with them
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5 RepliesMy conspiracy theory is fantastic in pve without shot package. Shotguns can be useful in all of the raids and all pve in general. Even without shot package, after the nerf shotguns will still be useful and work just fine in pve.
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Keep crying, be apart of the dying part of the community who defends shotguns.
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5 RepliesNoob try something else like a sniper no rushing like a total scrub with a sniper shotgun at hand.
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