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Edited by lojames22: 10/3/2015 3:55:46 PM
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Sleeper Simulant Discussion

Note that much of this is compiled from other sources. Here is my theory which includes some facts: first, collect the 4 DVALIN gun relics that look like pocket infinity (these are random drops, but have increased drop chance from war minds, near warsats and from SABER). If you read the text from banshee-44 he will give you clues. One clue is he relic transponder, that these things have traces. One of the relics turned in will play music that is from the forgotten shore. It's likely that the Pocket Infinity is included in one of the quest or relic puzzles, but good luck getting it if you don't have it from year 1. So apparently there are 4 hidden Golden Age data pad relics, which is interesting. 4 gun relics that drop randomly, 4 data pad relics that are hidden (maybe 5 that are hidden, but the last item is likely a completion item since its top-level over the others. Also, are the 4 classified gun relics actually the ones we've already found?). 4 CE overlay maps (debated heavily)? banshee-44. Bunker-44 (inside bunker 4) Connections? 8 relic items total are likely needed to start the quest (since the additional quest relics may be completion items). Gun relics and data pads and possibly a data recording play a role. After all that is done the exotic orb comes into play. All the perks on the exotic orb quest relic translate into map coordinates, all are locations of Warsat terminals. Earth- the last array Venus- down in the archives Mars- first bunker on the right at spawn Moon- main building to the left at spawn Look inside of Warsats for codes, these may be relevant later. Other Locations of interest (relic hunting or exotic orb quest): Bunker 4 (bunker 44 inside here) Promethean Code mission Siege of the warmind (https://www.bungie.net/en/Forum/Post/159128074/0/0/1) Celebrant Oryx room is likely a part of it. SS symbol is here. Ishtar Archives Warsats Rasputin Bunkers The CE map overlays may have some thing to do with SS, mainly because the emblem already received from the map translates to "Treasure Map" and the actual geographical map hasn't been used for anything. Last thing which is a total guess and unlikely is Randal the Vandal (based on a one-time glitch that couldn't be repeated) [spoiler]The original post was actually somewhat trollish, but it had a purpose which was fulfilled. Thanks for the comments. Sorry that it had to go about that way, but it was being used to draw out a particular piece of info. [/spoiler]

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  • Yeah, it's pretty much everywhere in multiple missions. What connects the dots is this: forgotten shore entrance, last gun relic turned-in forgotten shore music plays, that's the start of "siege of the warmind" and "Promethean code." Siege of the warmind "shows us the door" to Promethean code (since you can't do anything there during siege of the warmind), Promethean code has the F5 on the readable screen in the level (f5 was a hint by Deej), and many other curious references in Promethean Code, and then there is one unscannable object that the ghost will ping you on near the "test weapon" room glass wall (SABER room)... Not to mention the secret red X. Something is here...

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  • Edited by lojames22: 10/3/2015 5:30:55 PM
    I believe that Bungie has already shown us the door, we just don't realize it. Another possible clue is "F5" which could mean a few different things.

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    • Umm...Bunker44 isn't real. You probably confused it it Bunker WAR-4. Which you can enter in the TTK mission "The Promethean Code". There are also, no Bunkers on Venus. They would have been discovered by now. Also you need to make up your mind. " Oh so and so is here but not here but it is." "Yeah i found this place by myself with my elite team of friends by myself." "You need the so and so but you don't need it but it's needed for the quest." [spoiler]GR8 B8 M8 I R8 8/8[/spoiler]

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      • Anyone know anything about the solar and void versions of thunder lord?

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        • Will be funny if it's the new hard mode raid exotic.

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        • I got a random broken fusion rifle from a fallen, it showed up as if it was a patrol item (little pyramid thing) and it was marked too, I picked it up and a legendary weapon came out, it was placed in the mission box and it told me to return it to banshee, all it did was give me reputation.

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          • Nothing but BS poster with no knowledge of the game. He just started, did some of the story and saw a Reddit post containing warsat comms posted by an unknown, unreliable source. Then starts yammering about some BS area that he claims just opened up, which was a complete lie as "bunker 44" was Bunker War-4, which has been open since the expansion dropped. Now he's changed his whole theory based around the relics, which is a well known theory listed in multiple threads already but is acting like he weeded the information out himself with his crap post yesterday.

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            • Oh your the bromo that claims to have a clue and doesn't, for example "(in 10yr old voice) it was being used to draw out a particular piece of info) really? .. and what is that info? that didn't get drawn out? your still just as clueless as the rest of us.

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              • It's somewhere locked away, deep within Rasputins bunker, and guarded by nightmares from the Golden Age that even the Vanguard are afraid of.

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              • The sleeper stimulant is not even in the game if you look at the exotic kiosk you will see in the heavy engrams area 3 slot are for the swords one is for the truth and one is for the thunderlord

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                • Hey I remember you from your post yesterday! Muted.

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                  • Coming from the year two noob! Oh my god look at that credibility!

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                  • Fate

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                  • Your grimoire score is so low. I don't think you've even found the Crucible yet.

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                    • Edited by lojames22: 10/2/2015 2:43:23 AM
                      Clues lead to this statement on Venus as the start of it all. However bunker 44 on earth in the siege of the war mind quest is now open (never has been open) but you can't get through the second door. There are enemies behind the second door. This is likely a step in the quest according to other info.

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                      • Seems legit. 1400 grimoire and hasn't even finished story. Stop spreading rumours

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                      • Bruh I think you should finish the story before exotic hunting, just saying.

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                        • Even if you aren't trolling why won't you give us more specific details?

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                          • There was nothing found near the archive. I didn't say in the archives, but that's because it's still closed.

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                          • Bump for later

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                            • Where is the Complex located?

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                            • Bunker 44 is now open.

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                              • Reply for later. No reason not to search.

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                                • Edited by zinv1: 10/2/2015 1:56:12 AM
                                  After doing some research, isnt part of the Mine called Bunker War-4? or something to that context?

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