Yeah except they were.
- Shotguns made ANY enemy dead with ease
- Black Hammer and Ice Breaker made Juggler/Nightfall strikes into jokes
- G-Horn needed to be brought down since day 1. No weapon should be able to kill that quickly.
You may not be happy that the crutches that lazy PvE players used have been nerfed, but for the rest of us we are more than happy to see the G-Horn/Ice Breaker or GTFO mentality go out the window.
Now people might actually pull their heads out of their ass and look at the other exotics and we can get some variety in this game rather than everyone using the same exact loadout.
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If I want to use Gjallarhorn for everything because it's my choice not your not bungie MINE
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This is how i feel
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I feel they'll have to bring the damage down quite a bit for it too stop being the go to weapon. However hopefully it's not too crazy as to where it's the weakest exotic launcher.
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There should always be a PvE weapon everyone strives for. Gjallarhorn is that weapon.
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Nerds.
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Was that weapon*
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Yup you said it... "Was" now it's just another cosmetic for us to look in the past and say what shame.
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I think is my favorite thing they have done in months. Ghorn was always overused. Now other exotics will see some use. More variety is great.
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Like what? The problem is not us the players is the developer team. They are not creative enough to make weapons that will want us to stop using Gjallarhorn. Since they can't come up with any good ideas well heck lets nerf everything. Btw do you think that auto rifle buff will do anything? Trust me it won't. Auto rifles have been nerfed 3 times. It will take a lot to bring them back to usability
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I finally get to dust off my Thunderlord, I have always preferred machine guns to rockets but Gjallahorn made it hard to use anything else.
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Exactly.
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Except that they didn't stop there. By nerfing the entire year 1 stat perk set across the board (and retroactively) every Vanilla or TDB weapon you have has been nerfed. Perfect Balance, Field Scout, Send It, Hammer Forged, and so on all nerfed - including on Raid weapons and Exotics. "BUNGIE NERF THE BADGER CCL IT'S BROKEN" said nobody ever.
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Yes. They are making sure the game is not the stroll through the park that it is currently. Thats the point.
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Like I said - these weapons are not overpowered. I'm not talking about the class balancing - this is the reduction of effectiveness of all the original stat perks.
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Which means the game as a whole will become more difficult as a result. Thats a good thing.
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No. If they were trying to increase difficulty on the whole they would have nerfed base weapon stats. They only nerfed Vanilla and TDB weapons.
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Okay I'm confused. Are you upset with the nerfs or not? They did this for the sole purpose of balancing the game and making sure the items like G-Horn/Icebreaker that broke the game could no longer do so as easily. Thus making the game as a whole more difficult since so many relied on them so heavily.
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I'm not upset with the nerfs by class or for specific weapons. I'm upset that there was an across the board nerf targeting all Vanilla and TDB weapons. All the legendaries that we saved and brought forward by ascending are being rendered less effective simply so that people will move on to something new and shiny. What good is a 10 year plan if your Guardian has to start over every year? If that really cool gun that has a really cool story behind it gets dismantled because they like to go back and rewrite history - nerfing it and rendering it obsolete?
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I don't see the issue. Just agree to disagree I guess.
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The reason everyone used these same guns so much is because everything else sucks in pve and feels like your using a nerf gun.
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No. Everyone used G-Horn/Ice Breaker because they were OP and needed to be balanced but never were. Not that they have been other guns that have vastly superior Utility like Red Death, Bad Juju, Monte Carlo, Dragonsbreath etc etc will now become more popular. The only thing G-Horn had going for it was its vastly superior damage. With that gone people will move on to other more useful items.
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Killing majors with shotgun is easy in skolas .. are you jocking !! Plus people will want people with gally even more! Plus not gonna use any shitty gun even if they are not worth it just because they nerf others
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Why would people want G-Horn now more than ever when its not going to be nearly as strong as it was?
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The bosses you could take with 1 or 2 or 3 gally before plus otger rockets Now you need more gally to compensate the reduction Even with the nerf gally will be more powerful than others Example 2 gally player could carry people in crota raid now you need more gallys to do so ... got it They just made it worse
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Edited by Coyote_x_Starrk: 7/17/2015 12:53:11 PMIf choose to look at it like a moron then yes that would be the case. Thank god most people possess common sense. They will compensate the lack of damage with the utility from other exotics such as Red Death, Bad Juju, Dragonsbreath, Monte Carlo just to name a few and apply this alongside new tactics and approaches. If you seriously think that the majority of the community is gonna say "Hmmmm well they nerfed Gally...you know what that means....WE NEED MORE GALLY!!!!" then you my friend need to take a step back.