[quote][b]So here is the Nerf everyone has been asking for.. to bad they didnt just Nerf the Thorn they Nerf pretty much everything.. please make note of the Thorn updates and tell me what you think.. they say its an overal lbuff to the gun but makes it less lethal.[/b] [b]-blam!- knows why they would nerf gally and black hammer.. like really [/b] [b][u]Auto Rifles[/u][/b] [b]Changes:[/b] -Increase base damage [b](Buff)[/b] -Start damage falloff closer to the player to emphasize its role as a close to medium range weapon [b](Nerf)[/b] -Small reduction in base stability. Landing shots at optimal range is unaffected, but repeated precision hits require more weapon control to land consistently [b](Nerf)[/b] -Boost damage by 10% against AI combatants [b](useless)[/b] [u][b]Pulse Rifles.[/b][/u] Changes: -Reduce base damage of the medium RoF by about 2.5% [b](remember what this did to auto rifles.. Nerf)[/b] >PVP: Bursts-to-kill (all precision hits) is 2 or 3, depending on victim’s Armor stat -Small reduction in base stability. A burst should still land all shots at optimal range, but three precision hits will require more weapon control to land consistently [b]( Nerf )[/b] -Increase magazine size on for all base inventory stats [b](Buff)[/b] [u][b]Scout Rifles.[/b][/u] Changes: -Increase base damage for medium to high Rate of Fire Scout Rifles [b](Buff)[/b] >PVP: Does not affect TTK in PVP on a Guardian with full health -Increase magazine size for all base inventory stats [b](Buff)[/b] -Reduce Final Accuracy when firing from hip -Fast firing outside of ADS will be less accurate -Boost damage by 5% against AI combatants [b](useless buff )[/b] [u][b]Hand Cannon.[/b][/u] Changes: -Start damage falloff closer to the player to limit long range lethality [b](nerf)[/b] -Small reduction in ADS accuracy, targeted at making long range snap-shooting less reliable [b](nerf)[/b] -Reduce final accuracy when firing from hip [b](nerf)[/b] -Fast firing from hip is less reliable [b](nerf)[/b] -Reduce magazine size for all base inventory stats [b](nerf)[/b] -Reduce base Optics (zoom) for all Hand Cannons [b](nerf)[/b] -ADS now grants more width in favor of depth [u][b]Shotguns.[/b][/u] Changes: -Shotgun perks that enhance lethality at range should be less effective when combined with a high initial Range stat: >Reduce Shot Package Accuracy buff by 30% [b](nerf)[/b] >Rangefinder adds a 5% base Range increase on ADS (was 20%) [b](nerf)[/b] -Reduce Precision Damage multiplier on Shotguns by 10% [b](nerf)[/b] -Reduce damage against AI combatants by 10% [b](nerf)[/b] [u][b]Fusion Rifles.[/b][/u] Changes: -Slow charging, high Impact Fusion Rifles have decreased Range values >Makes it more difficult to max out Range for these weapons [b](nerf)[/b] -Projectile Speed for Fusion Rifles is slightly reduced >Emphasizes the need to lead a targets outside medium range [b](nerf)[/b] Improve Accuracy for short range Fusion Rifles Reduce Accuracy for long range Fusion Rifles [b](nerf Does this include Vex because that thing hits nothing which is over 10m away from you)[/b] [u][b]Sniper Rifles[/b][/u] Changes: -Final Round on Sniper Rifles buffs precision damage only, not base damage >This change only affects this perk when combined with Sniper Rifles [u][b]Hard Light[/b][/u] Changes: -Increase base Stability to 80 (was 65) [b](Buff)[/b] -Increase bounce count for Hard Light projectiles [b](Buff)[/b] -Hard Light projectiles are not affected by Damage Falloff [u][b]Necrochasm[/b][/u] Changes: -Increase base Stability to 60 (was 40) [b](Buff)[/b] -Increase magazine size [b](Buff)[/b] -Cursebringer perk will always trigger on a precision kill [b](Buff)[/b] -Cursebringer explosion has increased radius and deals more damage [b](Buff)[/b] [u][b]The Last Word[/b][/u] Changes: -Reduce Range stat to 10 (was 20), reduce Stability to 20 (was 30). [b](nerf)[/b] -Reduce effective range while in ADS. [b](nerf)[/b] -Increase accuracy and precision damage aim assist scale when firing from the hip. “Get three coffins ready.”[b](Buff)[/b] -Fixed bugs with Hipfire damage bonus applying incorrectly [u][b]Thorn.[/b][/u] Changes: -Reduce base damage of Thorn’s Mark of the Devourer DoT (Damage over Time) to roughly 1/3 of what it was in PVP and PVE [b](Nerf)[/b] -Allow DoT to stack up to 5x across multiple landed projectiles [b](Buff?)[/b] [b]This did not stack before if you hit someone and they were poisoned and then hit them again the poison would not reset its self.. so does this mean my DoT can stack so if i hit someone 3 times it will stack x3 damage???[/b] -This is a net buff for Thorn’s DoT, but reduces the lethality of the weapon in PVP [u][b]Hawkmoon[/b][/u] Changes: -Add a stack limit to Luck in the Chamber and Holding Aces so that only 2 of the bonus perks will ever stack on one round. This should prevent Hawkmoon from 1-hit killing full health players in PVP [b](Nerf)[/b] -Add 2 rounds to Hawkmoon’s magazine when Holding Aces is unlocked -Luck in the Chamber damage bonus reduced by 3% [b](Nerf)[/b] [u][b]Icebreaker.[/b][/u] Changes: -Increase recharge time for Ice Breaker rounds to 1 every 8 seconds. Was 1 round every 5 seconds [b](nerf)[/b] [u][b]No Land Beyond[/b][/u] Changes: -Increase weapon handling speed for faster time to aim, ready, and stow [b](BUFF OP as -blam!-)[/b] -Adjust sights to fix overlap/parallax issue while aimed -Increase time decay of The Master to 8 seconds -Add an additional 20% Precision Damage bonus while The Master is active [b](BUFF OP as -blam!-)[/b] [b]Black Hammer.[/b] [b]This is -blam!-ing retarded..[/b] Changes: -Increase ammo inventory to 18 rounds [b](Buff)[/b] -White Nail perk now pulls ammo from your inventory [b](Nerf)[/b] [u][b]Gjallarhorn[/b].[/u] Changes -Reduce damage of Wolfpack Rounds [b](Nerf)[/b][/quote]

I'm so glad I troll crucible with NLB. This should be a fun update

Bump

I just don't like some of the reasoning for the Gjallarhorn nerf. I can understand if it became more powerful than they intended and need a nerf which maybe it did. But If its because of the lfg issue then that is more a result of game design namely a lack of matchmaking. I agree the thorn needed a nerf even though I used all the time. Icebreaker and black hammer were fine the way they were.

I really wish people would stop crying about this. Im all for freedom of speech but damn is there a lot of ass pain. Suck it the hell up. You'll be fine.

[quote]about 2.5%[/quote] more like about 15% based on what they did to auto rifles

LMAO OH NO OP PVE WEAPONS GOT NERFED HOWEVER WILL YOU RAID WITHOUT BLACKHAMMER AND GJALLY SMH

destiny for the pvp player -blam!- everyone else

Necro has 42 ammo.

Guys let's just stop all moaning and see what happens on September and then decide if you want to buy or quit destiny.