What the fućk. I'm so confused. DeeJ point blank stated that vets would receive better rewards than those who bought the Collector's Edition. There was no explanation on how it was better ! This makes no sense. All he did was reinforce the shit that we already knew we were getting. This is so fućked. I'm glad Fallout 4 releases this year. Bethesda actually gives a flying fućk about their players. I'm so done.

they screwed things up. now they want to charge 20 bucks for the extra stuff. just like luke said, we would throw our money at the tv. sorry not me. if that stuff was 5 bucks, ok. maybe. but 20. you need your head examined.

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Yes. Saying sorry is a good step. I think people blew it all out of proportion anyway. At the end of the day, they didn't make this game for fun, it's business, with lots of people to pay for and lots of other overheads. Is it expensive, a little. When I break it down to £ per hour it is incredibly cheap. Only my wife has given me so much fun and she is a damn site more expensive.

Honestly, I couldnt care less about the "extra stuff" If you ask me, I was just set on the $40 digital edition, nothing more nothing less. Really to me, both sides are at fault. Bungie was at fault, for bad marketing and remarks. The community is at fault for yelling "OMG I WANT THAT SHINY POINTLESS THING!" Seriously guys, its just emotes and shader stuff, for gods sake this whole ordeal began because some people are so absent minded, that they have this "collectivization" disease, that they need to get anything and everything that possibly exists out there in the game: In case you have been playing destiny for the past months: News flash, its impossible to collect all the items, it always will be! Bungie is at fault, but guys, grow up, its $20 of stuff you never even needed. You don't need the emotes. Im just a lone defender titan here, but I guess being a guardian who says, I just want to pay for the $40 deal, I really dont care about the extra stuff, so how would I qualify in this mess? Am I a drone for just wanting to buy the core game, or am I somehow more mature because I just say, that emote stuff, whatever it doesnt matter, I mean Bungie did make controversy with this stuff, but guys, honestly I have seen people act this unbelievably stupid for virtual goods in only one other game, and that was team fortress 2. Seriously guys, its like you are breaking your backs over hats in that game. You are all free to pursue what you want, buy the game or leave it, but this controversy because a few meaningless emotes, dances, and shaders are out of your reach? Seriously? No wonder the game industry is prone to crashing, the budgets have gotten too high, expectations have gotten too high, and as soecity itself has become hypersensitive to the most mundane bullcrap, people react in violent bouts rather than just taking the time to freaking think about these things logically. Ask yourself this: [b]If you play destiny or keep playing it, and you get the taken king, do you seriously need the emotes for $20, I mean do you seriously need it? Its not going to impact gameplay, its not going to put them at a higher level. Its not like if a buy a gally for $5 deal was included. This stuff is not going to break the game. I mean guardians, no matter your platform, for christs sake, how how how does any of this even merit reason to act in outcry simply because of dumb marketing practices? Do you guys seriously have the desire for such pointless trinkets that this becomes your choice of leaving a game? Back on TF2, I have seen insane stories, but the worst was how a dumbass decided to buy a golden frying pan for $5000 Seriously, a virtual item, that did nothing but turn enemy players into gold statues, nothing more, nothing less. And its been like this in other games in the past 10 years in other cases But this, just, wow. I have seen people leave game franchises for developer shortcomings, dissapointment with gameplay, even playerbases, one such case, I left world of warcraft because the community was just outright horrible, it was filled with the most nit picky people, who wanted everything and anything as they said it was and wanted every little meaningless detail covered for anything, it was more a job than a game and I left because if it was a job, why the hell should I pay for a job if I couldnt have fun with it as a game? But this? This is just, embarresing. I mean quit because a few pointless emotes are out of your reach or too expensive, when its just a stupid gimmick that doesnt even matter in the first place. I mean you dont hear about all the new players who would come in suddenly bitching about the year 1 material and wanting to buy that would you? I mean if that did happen, it would be even worse than this.[/b] Those class items with stat buffs? Those will be on all new legendary class items. But thats also activision for you, they are the worst publisher in the industry, I generally avoid their games because of their dark history and scumbag methods. I mean call of duty is proof of how they treat their customers, I only stuck with this because, this was bungie. But even after halo reach, I honestly feared for bungie when they said they would partner with activision, it was just around the time after that modern warfare 2 fiasco was going on. [b]No customers are not stupid, we know activsion is the worst of the worst, like EA, they are greedy, mindless, have no concept of the fact that overstaruation for the games market, focusing on quantity over quality, thats what led to the crash of 1983 long ago in the first place, no quality control, and as a publisher, activision has been doing this with call of duty, they are continuing to do it with that stupid skylanders crap, and they drove guitar hero into the ground. Hell this is the publisher that back in 2013 believed its customers and gamers were so dumb minded that they would just flock to call of duty ghosts, when a game that spent a long time in the making, Grand theft auto 5, they believed they would top rockstar, and by god look how that backfired on them. Gamers wanted something more, they wanted divesity, thats why GTA was taken in great numbers aside from the fact it was the first GTA game in 5 years. But Actvision, they are just scum suckers who want to take every little last thing they can from the customer, dont expect it to be much different with bungie as one of their misfortuante subjects now.[/b] I mean I like bungie, I like the legacy this developer made with Halo. [i]What I fear though is that bungie got involved with the worst publisher, the one that does all this BS and forces this down the developer and customers throat, and that the creative talent that made halo, is being sucked dry out of their choice, not because of this game, because they partnered with activsion. Because if activsion gets upset, they end a studio and thats why I will always hate activision. I hope bungie survives, thats all I really care for.[/i] But everything else? Personally, this fiasco never impacted me. I was never going to get or be bothered by the whole emote stuff. Its really, just stupid [i]Thats all it really is... I just want the taken king itself, I can live without this other junk, I am sure a lot of others can. But if I am being mature here because I dont want the dumb emote stuff either way, then I guess others will mock me and call me a drone because I like this game and still decide to support them?[/i] Well I can easily call the rest of those people foolish and just dumb if their reason for quitting the game is because a few pointless emotes are out of their way when it doesn't matter anyway you cut it. Its just stupid optional stuff, it matters no way in the past, present, or future. I just want the game itself. I support destiny because I find it enjoyable. Its got rough edges and yes this whole marketing thing, it was dumb. But Im a customer that with all this stuff, I just want the main deal itself, the game, nothing more or less. I couldnt care less about the emotes. Really I just want to be a sunbreaker and just throw hammers at people. But thats just me. Even then, at least destiny has been a different shooter compared to those with well, nothing ever chaging or finding a standard, do I even need to bring up the disaster known as call of duty, that should just be put down like a sick animal at this point? I mean come on guys, advanced warfare, now black ops 3 looking practically the same, by setting and by themes? Really? Least we get enemy variety in destiny and PVP isn't a mode that becomes redundant in itself, seriously, whoever thought a system to get something to help you kill more, on autopilot, that was just dumb. Thats why I dont play COD, killstreaks, are honestly, stupid. Why would you need a helicopter to kill if you were doing fine already? Thats just dumb. Maybe thats my reason to call COD for children, a game playing for you. Not like you know, Halo you work with your team for map control or team fortress 2 where you combine the many powers of the 9 classes to achieve victory you know medic charges heavy, the rest support around the uber heavy, classic stuff. But this is just me. Bungie, yeah they screwed up in this marketing deal, I'm not denying that. Activision is evil and should be burnt off this earth. $20 for the emotes, is well just further bad marketing. Its not something good like say, 343 industries giving 15 free maps for halo 5 over the coming months beyond launch including the 20 at launch so that we could have 35 approx maps by next year. All I am saying though: "I'm mature enough to just go, eh whatever, it never bothered me, I never wanted the emote stuff in the first place. I just want the $40 deal and thats it, nothing more nothing less." I just want to go to phobos and around saturn in that dreadkaught, and dethrone Oryx with a blazing hammer of solar light. And I can do this all without making a fuss over some stupid emotes that dont even matter. But thats just me.

Yes, but us day one players also get things that are [i]exclusive to us[/i] and all the new players [i]have no way of attaining it[/i] while we can get their stuff.