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4/29/2015 6:37:13 AM
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THINK CAREFULLY BEFORE YOU NERF THORN BUNGIE
Think very very carefully before you nerf the Thorn Bungie. Make sure you test the living hell out of it before you even consider putting any changes live. DO NOT nerf it to the point of it being almost useless #ripsuros. When I was using Thorn before the buff, I said countless times it need either a reload speed buff OR a clip size increase; nothing more or less. You went and gave it everything. Now I beg of you to listen this time. Only remove 1 or at max 2 things from it. Stability should be reduced, no questions there. Maybe a rate of fire reduction; but that's pushing it. I don't want to see another weapon become useless.
[spoiler]And yes; I am certain they will nerf it. Enough people complained about it when it "sucked" despite it being an amazing gun and it got buffed. It's only a matter of time before it is nerfed.[/spoiler]
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2 RepliesFor the most part handcannons are wicked op becauae nothing else is really close besides pulse rifles. Thorn is a scrub weapon and Last word is close to being one too but actually requires a minimal amount of skill to use unless it's close range and you can just spam and blam blam blam...dead. I remember playing cruicible when it first came out and i just loved it. I had a lot of fun and had pretty much no complaints. It was a perfect mix between halo and cod and I had a ball, I also did very well with kd and points per game. As time goes on however i find myself doing worse and worse. Thorn just ruins pvp for me. I'm not saying nerf the crap out of it but it clearly outmatches any gun. I have one and the only time i bring it out is when i play against a team where 3 people are using it and when I use it the game feels way to easy. Just find an adequate balance please.
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git gud
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2 Replies#1 Make all weapons have equal penalty while jumping. Right now handcannons can jump and shot anyone with no penalty. #2 Make thorns DOT happen on only the killing shot. People are abusing DOT because of the shield staying down. They shot once, hide.. wait for your shield to go down and shot you once after they have full shield. This would make it so they have to stay in battle to get the kill
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Yep I agree with this everyone loves to moan about it but everyone can get this weapon but people choose not to bother doin the bounty then cry about the gun, it's a earned weapon like truly earned so fucc all the -blam!-
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No just keep it the same... It's a gun it kills people it's what it's supposed to do the bounty can be tricky so it should be a stand out gun.
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They have already tuned it excessively, Dont see them touching it again any time soon
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The only thing that made the Thorn crap was the awful reload speed. I say remove Perfect Balance from the middle tree and replace it with flared magwell, and make the Thorn have the same reload speed before it got buffed. With this in place, the gun is still powerful, however you'll have to choose your play style carefully. If you want to use the Thorn from afar, then the reload speed really won't effect you so you're better off using Send It for increased range and accuracy. Or, if you want to use the Thorn aggressively use Flared Magwell. And remember, there's gauntlets that increase hand cannon reload speed!
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Op translation: please don't take away crutch
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Why don't we just make DoT unable to kill? Then it'll be like a normal 3 shot gun. Then it's still exotic because if someone else comes along on your team, it'll be an easy kill for them.
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4 RepliesGod forbid letting an Exotic be an Exotic. "Suros is over powered" "Thorn is over powered" Yeah?...And? #ripsuros
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1 ReplyJust decrease the magazine
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Well, if it's nerfed, everybody is going to complain anyways, just like what happened to auto rifles. The people will never be satisfied.
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They are not nerfing if
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It needs a nerf to its dot in PVP only Or a nerf to fire rate or impact
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NERF IT TOO THE GROUNDDDDD
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Maybe they should reduce the damage of the burning
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Well I mean, the thing is a bit too strong compared to a lot of other guns. One shot almost brings my health completely down and then there's the lingering poison. I'd say a 15% decrease in damage would be sufficient to still keep it powerful and not have it lose its edge. Maybe 10%. I don't even have the gun but I hope they do thoroughly test it before implementing any changes. I don't wanna see the hard work go to waste.
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Only nerf they need is an ar buff
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So far I am kicking the shit out of thorn users with oversouls pulse rifle. When I was using my thorn I was commonly losing to oversouls pulse rifle.
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Thorn and tlw need to be nerfed.
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2 RepliesTLW is better
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2 RepliesAgreed - the time on target (ROF) for this weapon is far too low when compared to [u]all[/u] other weapons. Since 0.36 seconds is not a hell of a lot of time for any type of reaction I'd say that bringing other weapons time on target to the level of Thorn would be a less than ideal solution Most weapons live in the 0.8 to 1.3 seconds and it would likely be a better solution to normalize this time on target across the board at which point gun selection would be more a player preference thing and the outcome of a 1v1 fight would be more about individual skill.
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3 RepliesIt's a crazy good weapon. Compare thorn, tlw with any other handcannon and you'll see a very big difference in performance and perks. Compare red death and MIDA with other pulse/scouts and you'll notice they don't perform that much better, they only have special perks. The exotic handcannons are broken. So in order to compete you have to join them.
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98 RepliesNerf it to the ground. Would love to see the headless chickens running around without it to carry them. Just like the secondary ammo nerf; showed kids who relied on it thier real skill.
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3 RepliesThorn is another one of those crutch weapons that some players hold on to like it's the grip on the edge of a cliff.
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2 RepliesMy only complaint on it is its DoT. Just bring that down a bit and I'm okay. If they nerf it, I might actually start playing crucible.
