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4/29/2015 6:37:13 AM
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THINK CAREFULLY BEFORE YOU NERF THORN BUNGIE

Think very very carefully before you nerf the Thorn Bungie. Make sure you test the living hell out of it before you even consider putting any changes live. DO NOT nerf it to the point of it being almost useless #ripsuros. When I was using Thorn before the buff, I said countless times it need either a reload speed buff OR a clip size increase; nothing more or less. You went and gave it everything. Now I beg of you to listen this time. Only remove 1 or at max 2 things from it. Stability should be reduced, no questions there. Maybe a rate of fire reduction; but that's pushing it. I don't want to see another weapon become useless. [spoiler]And yes; I am certain they will nerf it. Enough people complained about it when it "sucked" despite it being an amazing gun and it got buffed. It's only a matter of time before it is nerfed.[/spoiler]

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  • Nerfing thorn is a no brainer imo.

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  • I just got it today. Id rather they dont touch it so i can atleast enjoy this gun that everyone loves

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  • Maybe make only a few random billets have DOT & reduce the range a bit would be nice. Thorn beats any primary at any range and is clearly stupid OP.

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  • From my experience either reducing the time of the dot or making it proc less often might actually be an effective way to bring it in line with other exotics while not making it useless.

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  • 3 Random Bullets should do Damage over Time not every bullet

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    • ReBuff the autorifles

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    • "THINK CAREFULLY BEFORE YOU NERF THE ONLY GUN IM GOOD WITH AFTER IT GOT BUFFED" [spoiler]yep[/spoiler]

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    • Edited by J Cob 55: 5/1/2015 1:44:17 AM
      How charitable of you. If I knew the future i'd probably just win the lottery or something boring

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    • They need to buff other weapons but not that much

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    • Get a -blam!-ing mythoclast

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    • Edited by MRxMOSH: 5/1/2015 1:31:19 AM
      The only real problem with Thorn is the DOT either reduce the amount of damage per tick or the amount of ticks one ,shot is an automatic 3 ticks thats 21 extra damage with just one bullet hit but just on crucible dont mess with it on PVE

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    • Please nerf it Bungie, along with Necro

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    • U know what they need to nerf All the nerfing Not saying I'm great but Wtf Bet if u had that gun u wouldn't b saying this

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    • I haven't used it in pvp. In pve,, with enemies less than level 30, it works well. 30+, it seems to me it just can't do much. I took it along on a weekly and ended up switching to a different gun because it just didn't seem to do much. Before you ask, it was fully upgraded. I have been against it in pvp, been hit was not killed even with the poison. When I was trying to finish the bounty for it, I only ran into it a couple times. This is one of the most difficult bounty weapons to get, especially with all the other PVP changes because of complaints, so I really hope they do not nerf it to the point that it just sucks. I guess the question is when is it the weapon, your having an off day, or the other person may be better than you? I suck at pvp. I can admit it, why is it difficult for others?

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    • They already did nerf Thorn. 7 damage over time was the original nerf for it. I'm finding it more and more capable as a solid hand cannon with that. A maxed titan in the armor stat does not die to a 2sk fom Thorn. I should know. I've survived a lot in this IB to others sending me messages saying I'm a hacker. This is why the Titan class is the best class. TLW is under the same influence. It doesn't cost three bullets to kill me. It takes four which gives me the time needed to pull the second headshot. There literally needs to be no nerf at this point. AR's and Scout rifles are all over the place and killing me from appropriate distances as well.

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      • Badger don't care.

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      • Nerf one gun another one becomes OP just leave them alone

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        • These are the same idiots that complain that the shotguns are being reduced by use because of the time delay on the special ammo cases so yeah I'm not surprised these idiots know nothing about the significance of stable balance

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        • Just make the dot less ticks or less damage

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          • Remove perfect balance and slow the center speed a bit. From an ex thorn user those are my suggestions.

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          • Need help with Xyor gt Censsus message for inv

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          • I think whenever someone fires it, it should explode and kill the guy the using it then it would be fair.

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          • Im sick of crap getting nerfed just because of the whinging PvP community....now when they nerf the Thorn, the cry babies are just gonna move along to the next weapon to cry nerf about. It never -blam!-ing ends!

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            • Edited by Nover Orales: 4/30/2015 3:07:35 PM
              It's pretty balanced bro. I think you're a little delusional.

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              • Large stability nerf = a good weapon but no longer OP since 2 headshots will be harder and/or slower to land. :)

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                • For the most part handcannons are wicked op becauae nothing else is really close besides pulse rifles. Thorn is a scrub weapon and Last word is close to being one too but actually requires a minimal amount of skill to use unless it's close range and you can just spam and blam blam blam...dead. I remember playing cruicible when it first came out and i just loved it. I had a lot of fun and had pretty much no complaints. It was a perfect mix between halo and cod and I had a ball, I also did very well with kd and points per game. As time goes on however i find myself doing worse and worse. Thorn just ruins pvp for me. I'm not saying nerf the crap out of it but it clearly outmatches any gun. I have one and the only time i bring it out is when i play against a team where 3 people are using it and when I use it the game feels way to easy. Just find an adequate balance please.

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