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4/29/2015 6:37:13 AM
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THINK CAREFULLY BEFORE YOU NERF THORN BUNGIE
Think very very carefully before you nerf the Thorn Bungie. Make sure you test the living hell out of it before you even consider putting any changes live. DO NOT nerf it to the point of it being almost useless #ripsuros. When I was using Thorn before the buff, I said countless times it need either a reload speed buff OR a clip size increase; nothing more or less. You went and gave it everything. Now I beg of you to listen this time. Only remove 1 or at max 2 things from it. Stability should be reduced, no questions there. Maybe a rate of fire reduction; but that's pushing it. I don't want to see another weapon become useless.
[spoiler]And yes; I am certain they will nerf it. Enough people complained about it when it "sucked" despite it being an amazing gun and it got buffed. It's only a matter of time before it is nerfed.[/spoiler]
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3 RepliesJust to clarify the gun is not OP, the gun is more OU (Overused).
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Edited by JoebAKL: 5/11/2015 11:24:06 PM-14 impact per bullet Bullets reset the burning counter OR lower rate of fire
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Thorn and the other exotic handcannons are fine, it's just that there are no other choice for primaries other than hand cannons or pulse rifles. The AR nerf was overkill for the most part. If they were buffed a little bit, the hate for handcannons would be lighter because everyone would go back to their Suros and Shadow Prices.
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It's fine as is... I don't get what the problem is. It's really not that hard to deal with in crucible, just stay near cover and know when to retreat to recover and try again. And when compared to some of the good legendary HC it feels clunky to use. I am pretty good at getting HC head shots, but with thorn it's nothing but the body
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3 RepliesHow to fix thorn: Increase recoil Lower the rate of fire slightly Decrease dot or headshot damage enough to remove 2 shot kills.
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Nerfz
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4 RepliesThorn isn't the only one that needs nerfed. [b]ALL[/b] exotic hand cannons are OP as sh!t. Inb4 I get any hate, we all know it's true.
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Just decrease rate of fire and its fair
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Well good news, I don't think it's happening. Way overused in iron banner but seems to be calming down a bit. I do however think it will make a large reappearance during trials of Osiris. I do think the fire rate is a bit too high and simply adjusting that would make things a lot more fair, in my opinion. But currently the only time it truly feels over powered is if a full team is using it in crucible.
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1 ReplyAn interesting exotic armour piece would be something that eliminates all DoT. So no thorn MoD or burning from warlocks etc. Sounds like a good thing to put out that could put some control on it instead of putting out a nerf.
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Same impact, reload, and clip; but make everything else timbur's lash.
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32 RepliesEdited by TeddyBundy: 5/1/2015 11:02:18 AMEveryone crying for no more nerfs is a Thorn/TLW/Hawkmoon-user.
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1 ReplyEdited by somuchnotes: 5/2/2015 5:30:07 AMThere's always going to be a OP PvP gun. First was the OG Vex then the OG Suros then Plan C's/Plug 1s/Pocket Infinity fusions -blam!- (edit: ra.pe) Now, we are in the era of dominant HC's-Thorn. Felwinters is a close 2nd.
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7 RepliesBungie should leave thorn alone. It's the hardest exotic bounty to do. Hence it should be rewarding to use. Working on my third thorn bounty and it is fun. Thank you Perun's Fire, Jolders hammer and Red death. Where would I be without you!
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R.i.p Suros. 2014-2015
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Real thing here is [quote]ripsuros[/quote]
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RIP SUROS. The real reason I'm here.
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Edited by Emceh: 5/8/2015 6:16:48 AMAnd bungie... Dont freaking Nerf the entire class!! Like #rip-autoriffles Now that I will be able to upgrade my Devil You know after HoW, don't wanna put it back on my vault because u Nerf Hand cannons..
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"Butts"
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Why don't they increase the air time of the projectile. Think about it, it has a high ROF and is a guaranteed 2hko. At least this way, if they miss they're screwed and making it a bit harder to hit their shots.
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Wow. You're extremely arrogant to even think that you have had such influence on this weapon. They have so much data on usage, kills, properties, and tests as they have shown us this data in the past. Do you feel cool posting here? Are you that immature? They need to "think very carefully", "make sure you do this", "listen this time", "I told you countless times" what it needed, "only remove 1 or 2 things from it", " I dont want to see another weapon become useless", "I am certain they will nerf it". You're not certain at all. You're assuming. You're a -blam!-ing douchebag. And after looking at your stats, you're an even bigger douchebag.
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Edited by TC Flasher: 5/2/2015 7:07:15 PMSo you're saying you want me to think carefully before I nerf my Thorn Bungie?
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If fire rate is reduced then stability perk will lose some of it's appeal. Take the Timur's lash for example. The slow fire rate makes the low stability not an issue.
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Thorn is a very mixed case for me. I hate using it personally, cause it just feels... Dirty. But if I had to choose an aspect to nerf, it would be the RoF. It's a bit too fast and should be tapped down to make it more high risk high reward, as opposed to 4 quick body shots run behind a wall and get the kill.
