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Edited by Adam:
3/16/2015 2:41:10 AM
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Thorn Nerf? + List of Bullsh*t in PvP
Will it be in the update before The House Of Wolves or before hand?
I'm a Thorn user (I mean, why not?) and I'm just wondering when Crucible will stop being easy mode.
Also, some things that need looking at:
*The Lag makes a lot of games unplayable. I'm not sure whether it's the lack of dedicated servers or crappy region matchmaking, but the lag NEEDS to be fixed. It's an embarrassment. [b]FIX THE LAG[/b]
* Final Round shouldn't be a perk that allows snipers to one hit you to the body. It's being abused like Hell in Skirmish . Shoot off 2 rounds when you spawn, then runa round with a OHK. It's broken.
Blink/Shotgun is a joke. In a game with such a long time to kill, being able to teleport in front of someone with a one hit kill is kinda stupid.
* Auto Rifles are trash now. Especially the high rate of fire ones like Necrochasm. ARs couldn't compete with Hand Cannons before the nerf... Now, there is literally no point in using one. Hard Light and Monte Carlo are such awesome looking and sounding guns, but are literally useless.
* Hand Cannons are still way too dominant. The nerf was unnoticeable to me and I main Hand Cannons. The exotic ones are particularly overpowered.
* The nerf to special ammo did literally nothing. in fact, all PvP seems to be lately is a blink shotgun/Thorn spam fest.
* Why nerf shotguns and then give away Felwinter's Lie? It has insane range. In fact, any shotgun with high impact + Shot Package seems to reach way beyond the intended shotgun range. People use these things as primary weapons.
* The maps need serious work. Shores of Time, Blind Watch, Firebase Delphi.... They're all horribly, horribly unbalanced.
* Despite the Fusion Rifle Nerf Pocket Infinity is still ridiculously overpowered. (Anyone seen tripleWRECK rant about it? haha)
* Too many supers. The Orbs give you way too much super energy, and it creates a snowball effect. The Heavy ammo pre-patch was similar.
* Matchmaking is awful. Full teams of 6 being matched against randomers that quit half way through, joining games that are about to finish, having to backpack an entire team every single game..... The matchmaking needs serious work.
* TEST WEAPONS BEFORE YOU BUFF/NERF/RELEASE THEM
So many exotics in the game, but only 3 or 4 that are viable in competitive PvP games. SIGH
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You hit the key points in everything that is wrong with PvP. I support everything you stated.
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Lag is terrible, shot the same guy point blank strafing back and forth with fusion rifle 4 times and then got killed by him then he does. It's embarassing.
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4 RepliesSounds like you need to find a new game . . . . . . please go find a new game and spare us all the sadness.
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People naturally suck at fps here gunna run around with shottys cus there bad it's just the way she goes
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Live with it or play Evolve
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list of BS= pvp
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I like how the worst gun in the game is now the most cried about in the game.
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They need to take away the damage boosting barrels on thorn and then it'll be manageable. Normally a gun with thorns impact(word of crota) hits for 77 damage on head shots. The highest possible damage in two shots with thorn would then be 77+77+35(dot)=189 so it would only be able to 2hko the lowest hp hunters. This would help to balance it out tremendously and the dot would just prevent immediate recovery like it's supposed to.
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1 ReplyThe lag is the biggest problem. I have a decent internet connection and experience no problem in other shooters. Destiny? Red bars everywhere! If I see them then I already am in orbit. Screw that. Besides the lag, people who have a real bad connection have the upper hand. What's that about? The blink/shotgun is a risk and reward tactic, but why do a lot of players play like this? The maps are to small or broken spawnpoints. Control C and B on Shore of Time? You win because of the crappy spawnpoints... Furthermore they have to keep pve and pvp nerfs seperate. Now it has effect on each other. Not cool...
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Just fix the lag. That's all. Dear Lord Sweet Bebe Bejesus!
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3 RepliesLots of good stuff written. But my main concern is the lag and I totally agree; it's an embarrasment! I'm in Europe, playing with fiber, but still laggy as hell. I'm hearing people with redbar (and worse connection) saying that it doesn't lag. I have open nat and everything in order in that department. So where is the problem, Bungie? Crappy servers? Crappy servers in Europe? Or is it just a crappy system saving the people who is unfortunate enough to have a crappy connection? Ofc I still love pvp, but if feels like the end of Halo 3 with lots of lag switchers, host-booters and Mexican lag (no offence, it was just reeally laggy playing against mexicans).. It would be awesome if bungie could just explain How this whole system works in Destiny, because no way it lags this often in other games!
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I agree with everything here except exotic being nerfed and hand cannons (excluding thorn, that needs a nerf hardcore.) Exotics are meant to be over powered, they arent easy to come by(most of the good o.p ones) and literally have better stats and perks its meant to level the playing field. Thorn is the exception because it has too much going for it but then again, it is one of thenmost difficult bounties to complete legit. The real problem with thorn imo is too many people are cheesing to get it. There are just too many damn thorn out there being abused. The range needs a nerf or the poison needs a nerf. It will likely see none though. The hand cannons. They are CANNONS for your hands. Not pistols or side arms, but Main weapons that are miniture CANNONS. When have you known a cannon to not be effective? A portable space cannon should be no different except since space magic is in play the range and accuracy is way better than normal cannons. They are weapons of skill. If anything should be nerfed, its the auto aim that is on every weapon in this game. Auto aim+lagswitching= terrible lobby thay arent fun.
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9 RepliesIMO why do you guys want exotics nerfed at all? They're exotics they should be way op compared to even a legendary
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Hand cannons are only dominant by those who know how to use them. Miss a shot with a hand cannon and you are instantly on the defensive. As for Thorn and it's DoT. It has a lower impact than most legendary hand cannons and the DoT doesn't stack. If you get killed by Thorn then it was just a slower death than from the TDYK or Hawksmoor.
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6 RepliesEdited by RxGUE88: 3/15/2015 6:49:20 PMThorn borderlines OP. Slow down it's Fire Rate or make it at least 3 bullets to kill. Only Hawkmoon suffered from the recent nerf because it was usable at longer range and was more of a precision weapon than the other HC's so the accuracy nerf made it less reliable. Imo it's still the only allowed 2 shot HC since it had higher kick and slower fire rate then the other two exotic HC's. P.s. If you claim Thorn is just fine you are a scrub, I stopped using it because it's to damn easy
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All true. Well said.
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1 ReplyJust fix lag. People will constantly cry about weapons.
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8 RepliesThe last word remains awesome.
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1 ReplyI agree with the special ammo. the pocket I agree to some degree, its definitely annoying to get sniped by that thing. No more nerfs to hcs, you nerf them again and then pulse rifles will be completely op, id say just buff auto rifles back to the way they were.
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11 RepliesOnly nerf for thorn should be a range or recoil
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I felt the hand cannon nerf the moment I pulled the trigger. Range drops off significantly. As a Thorn user, I usually counter the nerf with the inc. accurace and range upgrade(Send it, I think?), but other hand cannons feel the burn.
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10 RepliesThorn is balanced, you suck. It actually takes some skill to obtain and because of that is superior to other weapons in the crucible. It needs a PvE buff in my opinion.
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AR's ARE FINE
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Edited by OldManJenkins: 3/15/2015 6:08:53 PMHand cannons are FINE. Jusr AR's need their damage back, and vex needs its accuracy and ammo back. As for shotguns, all they need to do is spawn everybody with zero special ammo, every time they spawn. Then place only 2 special ammo boxes in random places on the map with no marker over them, so that they have to earn their ammo by finding it. No point in having ammo boxes if they're every 10ft on the map. As for last round, just take it off of snipers, should only exist on scouts and handcannons.
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3 RepliesEdited by Orpheo: 3/15/2015 1:27:58 PMI agree with most of your points and it looks like you do very well in pvp. if its too easy for you should maybe try getting in the mix more. you have a very far average kill distance and few captures for how many kills you have. im not knocking you as you have a great W/L & K/D, just suggesting a different style to mix things up.
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Pi is fine now, it cannot snipe across the map anymore which i miss but was a needed nerf
