Exactly this that mission is gonna be so underpopulated a few weeks from now. matchmaking 12 will take an hour

Agreed. Solo players make up a significant part of the game. There are many reasons why people are not able to use chat functions. There are a lot of issues with using LFG for these sort of activities.

it was one of the main selling points for final shape and shouldn't of been implemented the way it has been an almost locked out of reach for alot of players especially since every elitist and his grandma preaches for nerfs in the name of balance ,but balance goes out the window now since we have such things as pvp orientated content and build videos that cannot be replicated without those exotic class pieces, more or less the whole reason warmind mods /cwl mods/well mods were removed because players that didn't have certain mods couldn't do certain builds, and bungies doing it again but with exotic armor now What doesnt help is bungie keeps creating content that always ends up with players having to watch a tutorial on the web to do it efficiently without being booted, get a freind addicted to a game that's 300$ ,accused of wasting time for not watching the vid because all posts in lfg are kwtd already and since we have some toxic community memebers that will boot you at a chest if they don't believe you pulled your weight aswell community is right to be annoyed especially since bungie doesn't ban players for booting at the chest either If bungie wants to take a step in the right direction they need to remove the timer completely which would be a very simple and effective compromise

So, are you asking to Bungie to waste resources and time just because you don't want to talk with other peoples in a multiplayer game?

Ima wait this out and see what happens. I don't need the class item, as cool as it would be to get it, but engaging with the community beyond regular matchmaking? Nope. Shouldn't be that hard to just add matchmaking to everything. Then nobody can kick or anything, though it is an issue of people just leaving at that point. There's no way to win with that anyway, so they should just remove the extra steps.

L, just use the in-game LFG and stop asking for handouts, it's not that bad, this is an MMO game, get over your social anxiety for at least 30 minutes

I still say just remove the annoying timer and let players play at they own pace not every major exotic mission needs to be a timed speed run if it was that popular alot more of players would have done legendary whisper and outbreak especially if having a teammate is mandatory Idc if the if you had 20min left after completing the mission the main issue is that it's their along with puzzles with a since of pressure even more so when you with a random lfg player If you going to do mission like this you need tiers better or similar like you did whisper and outbreak Normal- no timer -1Class exotic Expert- timer - 2 class item+ (Masterwork+artifice slot)

No. LFG.

Anyone else's besides me think Bungie might be planning to add class exotics to grandmaster Excision 😐

You (meaning anyone) freely purchased a prouduct classed as mmo, with well documented ten year history....and agreed to TOS. These are the facts. Bungie has, and will take certain license freedom with its creation. There is no breach or mislead in terms. Whether or not any individual finds satisfaction in this is something else. Questions of Bungie motivation vary. For me, I appreciate the social aspect focus in this iteration. It's more than I could have expected....and has been a pleasant surprise. Examples: toughest Contest mode Raid to date immediately followed by well received epic campaign finale for the masses (while honoring player request for match made 12). Pale Heart space as stand alone unique offering where you can solo, fireteam, or match make. Exotic class item which is soloable to a point if you choose, followed by team of two requirement. In practice, a fair portion of Destiny content is not soloable for most players, although the option to do so has been historically available for the most part. Where would Dual fall even if a solo queue version were available?......that's a hypothetical for debate and no conclusive answer. A recent example would be Outbreak Perfected, which is reported by light.gg (just one readily available metric source) to have been discover by just 2.34% of guardians. Comparatively speaking......if a proposed Dual solo queue were to yield a similar 2% discover rate, there wouldn't be much of an argument to be found against implementing 2s in Dual..... In any matching instance, this would take into account various barriers (excapt skill level) including accessibility for individuals with certain impairments. The Beta in-game LFG is a good example, accounting for title options including greeting / goals. Tags including deaf, hard of hearing, color blind, visual impairment....and more. Languages. Mic/no Mic....etc. Yes, LFG exists for Dual. As an offering for 2s.....is it so wrong / difficult to view this as a positive? I view this as a gap bridging and/or alternate experience opportunity. 2s have been interesting in PvP lists....and you'll also find them solicited in the LFG for things other than Dual. This shouldn't be so much about complaints....which comprise most of the input on this board. At the end of the day this comes down to communication and relationship, just like the rest of life.....even if it is just for an hour or two with other players via _____ (fill in the blank) avenue. The real question is - where are you, as an individual, meeting Destiny? Sincerely, 10 year solo player

Make it a 3 person. At least this gives people with disabilties/handicaps the ability to be carried.

People just have to plug in a mic once for 30 minutes to a hour, then they can farm overthrow for more.

An easy-mode 12 man matchmade mission isn't the place to put this. It's not a challenge and the mission is. While I agree solo players need a route this is not it.

Not a bad idea at all. Boy, the TWAB is gonna be interesting.