Back in the day I was playing this game every day every day my man competitive trails u name it with my friend art all time so match fun we hade now not so match bungie evolve the game to match and broke the game doing it . I did not tach destiny 3 months just log in yesterday because I miss the PVP after 3 match I just turn the game off Same maps same idiots with invisible at all time same idiots camping with 1s bow crucible it’s not fun man same stuff bungie I m sad 4 u u are becoming a boring and worst of it u are the on the way to lose your community game are not fun anymore I m sorry time to play another game.

[quote]Hello Guardians! I'm creating this post because lately i'm feeling that PvP is not enjoyable or rewarding anymore. We all remember those days back in Halo (1, 2 or 3) when everything seems to be fair and competitive. And after that, Bungie decided to create a new game called Destiny which the main idea was to create a "better game" or a "better experience" in an RPG world for everyone. But right now with current META for Destiny 2, and specifically talking about PvP. It just feel like they forgot everything we used to enjoy... - For example: If you go right now to any PvP game (Control, Elimination, Trials) you will notice that everyone will be using the OP stuff that require no brain for you to kill anyone. Like : - Fusion Rifles feels like they have unlimited range that can kill you from miles away - Exotic Helmet that provides you a passive to One Shot kill anyone with no effort. - Every guardian has always an overshield. - And don't forget all the pain we all been through when they released the Stasis class. It seems like everyone working in Bungie don't care of PvP anymore and they just want to reward every New Light player to feel they are at the same level compared with players that have Years playing and growing in this game. Listen Bungie: - We don't need your "Airborne" stat - Why penalize people that knows how to aim in the air? - We need more PvP maps - We use to have more maps in Halo 2 - Stop taking out and re-release the same maps we used to play If you really love your community learn from: FromSoftware company. I know its a completly different type of game, but see the point... They created the Dark Souls saga and the Souls-like category and this kind of games are known to be very Difficult, a game designed for people to learn from their mistakes and become better and better each time. But when they released Elden Ring, they preserved their style, the feeling, the gameplay with same difficulty but now in a completly, improved and exiting Open world. They knew that the people that loved their previous titles, would be the same people that will buy this game and you know what happend? Now Elden Ring is one of the best rated played games... But did they forget about their origins? NO!!! Because even with the constant pressure from the casual players requesting FromSoftware to create/add a lower difficulty for them, They decided to keep their essence and give their community the type of game they have been loving for years!!! But due the fact that the game received a lot of great scores and because it is a great title. New people decided to give it another try and some of them are enjoying the same way all the previous Dark Souls player felt the first time. I'm not sure if Bungie will read this... I'm not sure if people will be agreed with me on this... The only thing i will suggest is: Don't forget your Veteran/Competitive players Because many of them are leaving or will leave soon due the lack of improvement. And the new players you are trying to bring, will left you as well due the game is not fun or challenging anymore. You used to be cool Bungie, and I loved your games Please do something before we all endend up leaving[/quote] Splitgate is way more fun of a pvp experience. Until worthwhile pve comes to this game I’ll be on Splitgate as a much much better pvp experience. My teammates can actually win fights and shoot there gun unlike this game it’s so refreshing I’m like why even Que up in this game anymore?

Love letters are cool

*Applause*

I’ve said it before, The Bungie I met in Halo Combat Evolved would NEVER have done the crap they’re doing now.

I'm glad to hear players like this still exist, I really hope you are doing well. I hope bungie sees this and I support you fully

[quote]Hello Guardians! I'm creating this post because lately i'm feeling that PvP is not enjoyable or rewarding anymore. We all remember those days back in Halo (1, 2 or 3) when everything seems to be fair and competitive. And after that, Bungie decided to create a new game called Destiny which the main idea was to create a "better game" or a "better experience" in an RPG world for everyone. But right now with current META for Destiny 2, and specifically talking about PvP. It just feel like they forgot everything we used to enjoy... - For example: If you go right now to any PvP game (Control, Elimination, Trials) you will notice that everyone will be using the OP stuff that require no brain for you to kill anyone. Like : - Fusion Rifles feels like they have unlimited range that can kill you from miles away - Exotic Helmet that provides you a passive to One Shot kill anyone with no effort. - Every guardian has always an overshield. - And don't forget all the pain we all been through when they released the Stasis class. It seems like everyone working in Bungie don't care of PvP anymore and they just want to reward every New Light player to feel they are at the same level compared with players that have Years playing and growing in this game. Listen Bungie: - We don't need your "Airborne" stat - Why penalize people that knows how to aim in the air? - We need more PvP maps - We use to have more maps in Halo 2 - Stop taking out and re-release the same maps we used to play If you really love your community learn from: FromSoftware company. I know its a completly different type of game, but see the point... They created the Dark Souls saga and the Souls-like category and this kind of games are known to be very Difficult, a game designed for people to learn from their mistakes and become better and better each time. But when they released Elden Ring, they preserved their style, the feeling, the gameplay with same difficulty but now in a completly, improved and exiting Open world. They knew that the people that loved their previous titles, would be the same people that will buy this game and you know what happend? Now Elden Ring is one of the best rated played games... But did they forget about their origins? NO!!! Because even with the constant pressure from the casual players requesting FromSoftware to create/add a lower difficulty for them, They decided to keep their essence and give their community the type of game they have been loving for years!!! But due the fact that the game received a lot of great scores and because it is a great title. New people decided to give it another try and some of them are enjoying the same way all the previous Dark Souls player felt the first time. I'm not sure if Bungie will read this... I'm not sure if people will be agreed with me on this... The only thing i will suggest is: Don't forget your Veteran/Competitive players Because many of them are leaving or will leave soon due the lack of improvement. And the new players you are trying to bring, will left you as well due the game is not fun or challenging anymore. You used to be cool Bungie, and I loved your games Please do something before we all endend up leaving[/quote] Considering that the team who made Halo is gone and the current team has really only worked on Destiny you wont see that. Just because they are called Bungie and have Halo as a past project doesn’t mean they have the same people who worked on it. Its the whole idea that if you replace a plank of wood on a boat enough times do you really still have the same boat you started with or a new one entirely.

You forgot mentioning in your list "every" guardian running perma invis/wall hack... I guess I know why...

The problem is the community managers. They’re tasked with relaying feedback. They’re all buddy/ star struck over a few sub par streamers, they actively search Twitter just to respond to “streamer tweets “ . They plan trials cards with these select few, their interesting in clout chasing, hey look I’m cool I played with gjake or hey I’m raiding with gladd. Their motto is 🖕🏼pay me

Your are playing against better player so you loose, but it is the fault of Bungie? Expect to loose against other sore loser.

[quote]Hello Guardians! I'm creating this post because lately i'm feeling that PvP is not enjoyable or rewarding anymore. We all remember those days back in Halo (1, 2 or 3) when everything seems to be fair and competitive. And after that, Bungie decided to create a new game called Destiny which the main idea was to create a "better game" or a "better experience" in an RPG world for everyone. But right now with current META for Destiny 2, and specifically talking about PvP. It just feel like they forgot everything we used to enjoy... - For example: If you go right now to any PvP game (Control, Elimination, Trials) you will notice that everyone will be using the OP stuff that require no brain for you to kill anyone. Like : - Fusion Rifles feels like they have unlimited range that can kill you from miles away - Exotic Helmet that provides you a passive to One Shot kill anyone with no effort. - Every guardian has always an overshield. - And don't forget all the pain we all been through when they released the Stasis class. It seems like everyone working in Bungie don't care of PvP anymore and they just want to reward every New Light player to feel they are at the same level compared with players that have Years playing and growing in this game. Listen Bungie: - We don't need your "Airborne" stat - Why penalize people that knows how to aim in the air? - We need more PvP maps - We use to have more maps in Halo 2 - Stop taking out and re-release the same maps we used to play If you really love your community learn from: FromSoftware company. I know its a completly different type of game, but see the point... They created the Dark Souls saga and the Souls-like category and this kind of games are known to be very Difficult, a game designed for people to learn from their mistakes and become better and better each time. But when they released Elden Ring, they preserved their style, the feeling, the gameplay with same difficulty but now in a completly, improved and exiting Open world. They knew that the people that loved their previous titles, would be the same people that will buy this game and you know what happend? Now Elden Ring is one of the best rated played games... But did they forget about their origins? NO!!! Because even with the constant pressure from the casual players requesting FromSoftware to create/add a lower difficulty for them, They decided to keep their essence and give their community the type of game they have been loving for years!!! But due the fact that the game received a lot of great scores and because it is a great title. New people decided to give it another try and some of them are enjoying the same way all the previous Dark Souls player felt the first time. I'm not sure if Bungie will read this... I'm not sure if people will be agreed with me on this... The only thing i will suggest is: Don't forget your Veteran/Competitive players Because many of them are leaving or will leave soon due the lack of improvement. And the new players you are trying to bring, will left you as well due the game is not fun or challenging anymore. You used to be cool Bungie, and I loved your games Please do something before we all endend up leaving[/quote] I love pvp but destiny was made as a pve game so they not gonna spend as much time on pvp ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Bungie already mentioned why there is reduced in air accuracy. It's because if there isn't any, everyone just jumps or flies around to shoot. They play tested it, so don't expect that one to change....

Fusions were changed to hitscan which is the issues

100 percent agree. Pvp is in a bad place right now. No new maps in over 5 years. They have given up on pvp.

I mainly just hate the repetitive bugs and net code in there. Besides the matchmaking and respawning at Chaperone range from an enemy.