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Edited by Lord Bird I:
2/17/2016 4:34:19 AM
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So about the MIDA... (It's overpowered)
NOTICE: Please don't respond or vote (Unless it's a TL;DR) without reading and understanding my full post. It would just waste everyone's time, including yours.
I don't mean to "whine" or anything (Can one discuss game balancing in a community as toxic as this without being called a whiner?) but the MIDA seems to outgun almost every other weapon, unless it's fighting a shotgun, sniper, or one of the other meta primaries. This gun rests in a very strange archetype, which means that it shoots faster than a Scout Rifle in the Hung Jury archetype, but still kills in 4 headshots. This means that if one player with a Hung Jury and another with a MIDA were to play perfectly (Hitting only headshots at their weapon's maximum fire rate), the MIDA user would win every single time. Isn't that the very definition of overpowered?
On top of the fire rate to impact ratio that this gun has, it also has 90 aim assistance (The highest out of any scout rifle, making headshots incredibly easy to land), a hidden perk that gives it what is basically an upgraded High Caliber Rounds (Meaning their opponent has even more difficulty hitting the MIDA user), and increased agility while using the gun (I'm not complaining about this part, as I see it as a completely fair and balanced exotic perk, but it's kind of ridiculous that it comes along with every other advantage that this gun provides).
Dictionary Definition of Overpower (First Definition):
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/overpower?s=t
Superior force? Absolutely (As explained above). People often seem to think something has to two-shot like Thorn or melt like the Vex OPclast, but that's not always the case.
Also, to anybody saying that it should be overpowered because it's exotic, here's a quote from Bungie themselves:
[quote]Exotic Weapons are designed to look, feel, and sound overpowered. At the same time, they are not supposed to break the balance of the game. We hope these weapons challenge the way players think about their loadouts. Exotics will be a constant work in-progress![/quote]
Thanks for Reading.
-Birdman00
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#Destiny
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Let me get it right here. ALL I mean all guns take skill to use even this what you call "OP" its not OP everything can be OP in the right hands. Its why kjhovey makes NLB an effortless thing to use when you see him play with it. Even the Thorn and TLW I admit it takes skill you need to tap headshots with them or you are severely punished for it if you can land all they can be very lethal even MIDA if you land all shots of the Multi Tool it can be lethal as well(headshots provided). So if I were all of you I would just shut up and try to be in the shoes of people on how they would feel if they were you and Bungie announces the MIDA nerf incoming and they would feel bad or just cry even (if that player provided is a young player 12 below). It seems that people only want a nerf because they want their selfish actions be acted upon and be responded by Bungie. Do you think they would? Of course not! They listen only to the right people and those who know the goal of a weapon class and the goal of a specific exotic weapon and the goal of Multi Tool is to be an all round versatile weapon that you can pair up with any secondary. So therefore I say Mida is not broken. Sincerely‚ A Smart Warlock (speaking for all the people who want it nerfed and not nerfed)
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7 RepliesThis weapon has been untouched and seen as a well rounded weapon with no extrodinary features to mention for the first 16 months of the game. Now because it has become popular it is suddenly over powered. Destiny community logic.
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4 RepliesI think the main problem is that a lot of people don't strafe as much as they should. I always see players standing still while their target stands still and they both just pump rounds into each other in hopes that one of them out shoots the other. A LOT of people expect brute force to win encounters. You will fail almost always if you're using a weapon that kills slower than a weapon like MIDA, more so if the person using the MIDA connects all their head shots. It's the same thing with people who go up against The Last Word and then wonder why they lose those encounters. You have to use more than gun skill to beat opponents. Destiny PvP is one big mind game, and you need to outsmart and outthink your opponent. Destiny isn't just about who can shoot faster or longer, it's about figuring out how to fool your opponent into missing shots or wasting their abilities, thus leaving them vulnerable to a counter attack. In this sense it's more like a fighter or a chess game. If you're going up against the MIDA or The Last Word you want to strafe and do anything to force them to miss shots. Even if your weapon shoots slower if you force them to miss shots then you'll best them all the time. If you can make someone using The Last Word to miss their shots and they have to reload, they're dead.
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Edited by Sleek: 2/20/2016 5:42:13 AMDoes not overpower, has a shallow learning curve to use it, but a steep one to counter it unless you can just shotgun rush or snipe
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1 ReplyThe thing with Mida is it has one of the lowest learning curves of any weapon I've used. It's one of the easiest weapons to get good with.
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The only this I dislike is it seems to totally eclipse the tuonela, but I guess that's inly if all hs. Still tho, love the tuonela. I've been really loving the slow archetype scouts tho.. man... the 3 tap HS kills are so sick. Don't think mida is op really, just strong.
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Not op but definitely stronger than most guns, annoying part is that it can hit you behind walls.
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The only thing I could see as being a level headed nerf, and one I wouldn't be mad about, is if they took away its hidden perk(high caliber rounds) The agility is what makes it unique, and nerfing it to a 5 shot kill weapon would give it one of the worst TTK for any primary period.
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Why didn't you complain in year one?? I'll say it again, instead of a nerf, let's buff the shit out of everything else. Honestly just shut the f u c k up
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RETARD.
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It's not op. Overused yes.
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Tldr not op
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It fits into its class very well. Great from long range. Mid range is good but a pulse rifle in steady hands can out gun it. Up close last word and fast autos like the doctrine will melt you. I think it works as designed. I love third eye and personally if I had the hung jury with third eye and braved frame I would use it over mida. Just my 2 cents.
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1 ReplyUr just mad cuz I'll never give it to you ;)
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2 RepliesIts funny that its all year 2 players complaining about mida. There is nothing wrong with it learn to move when being shot at.
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1 ReplyHe posted a link of the definition of overpowered. Wow
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Everybody loves Mida
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Look at the stats
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1 ReplyStop your bitching nobody cares
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2 RepliesI see you couldnt couldnt come up with something original....
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2 RepliesMIDA never revived a buff. It's fine.
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6 RepliesHardly anyone used MIDA in year 1 because everything else that was popular was really, really powerful, and MIDA was just a straight up solid weapon. The reason it's used a bunch in year 2 is because most of the available weapons in year 2 are utter garbage compared to year 1, which makes a really good, solid weapon like the MIDA stand out from the pack. It has nothing to do with the multi tool. Everything else is just crap and needs fixing.
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I mean it has advantage over really anything else in the mid range, and it functions well in close and long ranges, but it's not really overpowered. It's just been made stronger with the nerf to pulses.
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OP is the wrong word. Mida is a solid weapon. Something like the thorn with DoT is OP, or like the Doctrine that sprays the shit outta you. But the Mida only seems OP if you dont know how to move when being shot.
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Wouldn't say it's op. It's has some pretty good range but not op. If your getting killed by it a lot id suggest learning to evade.
