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Edited by The Swza: 11/29/2015 1:44:40 PM
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Trials of OhSnipers

I don't know about you all but I'm sick of trials being broken down to who can camp and snipe. Especially this weeks map. It used to be fun, but now it's 98% sniping and that's just boring. I know people want to win but man-up and come at me! On a more serious suggestion, whoever gets revived does so and gets an overshield, yet you are still vulnerable to a one shot kill from that pansy sitting on the other side of the map watching you. How about after a revive, you can't get one-shotted? Making the over shield effective. They won't nerf snipers obviously because sooo many people would cry because they would lose their only way to win. But buff the overshield after a revive to resist a one shot makes perfect sense. I expected a backlash of nerds justifying their cowardess but over 400 replies!?!? What makes you all so mad? My rightness? Most of you sound like you were raised by the Internet! On a side note I keep being accused of being a "shotgun noob". I prefer fusion rifles to be honest. Check the stats. Also I got about 29,000 crucible kills. Only 3,000 of which are shotty. So...math. So, 700 comments and 14 of whatever those blue arrows mean later, the young are here still trying to prove their hidey-hole not moving strat is honorable and almost tough. A lot mention a "push"? Informing me that I have to find a workaround mechanic to counter their sedentary playstyle. Or to [i]rush[/i] their side like, "oh no, you gotta find me here holding hands with my teammates if you actually wanna play the game". It cracks me up and y'all have made me rather popular on this forum which I know for a lot of you is all you wanna be! Ha! To the 11% of the people who replied that share my opinion, thank you, you get it. Well three (?) days and 10 away from a thousand replies regarding this post, after all the name calling and intentions to assassinate my character and playstyle and after all you little weirdos snooping around my stats trying to use them as a leg to stand on, the Hidey Snipey community has only strengthened my dislike for them. It seems a person who doesn't spare words has no place in this easily offended digital realm. One person commented that my post is "a little forward". I agree, and it's on purpose. Since your egos have been coddled you just can't handle it and my assault on your playstyle is taken with such pain it's comedic. Then I'm accused of it being a "salty, whining, complainer" for even speaking up! Madness! Maybe they thought I would yield, or even worse, be reasonable. My TrashTalk-Fu is strong. I'm not sure what offends more, my anti-camping campaign or the fact that I always have a zinger. As if I base my self worth on my KD (like most of you), it's insulted. You have revealed your hurt by defaulting directly to attacking people who shotgun even if I don't mention it. This is not a debate on which is better, shotty, sniper, fusion, sidearm etc. It's a post against a playstyle that I dont like, one I find boring and cowardly. A flaw in the system that allows one to get one shotted with an OVERSHIELD!!! A SHIELD!!! Fine, take the shield away, it'd make more sense than having one that is one-shottable by ANY weapon. For those who are unafraid to engage in a chaotic fast paced fight on the virtual battlefield I salute you. To those who slow it down with hand holding and hard scoping, the hiding and then have the nerve to defend it with a righteous indignation...gfy. :) You all think I'm referring to a gun as the problem. No, the behavior is the problem. You act like cowards when sniping. The sniper is not the problem, the problem is the panty wearers that be holding them. Lol don't deny.

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  • Edited by CWard17: 11/30/2015 2:06:04 PM
    Confirmed slide-shotgunning fgt (fusion my ass). Buff snipers to OHK anyone who has a shotgun equipped as a secondary IMO... Even if your shot hits them on the toe

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    • I finally found another fusion user!!

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      • hey if the strategy works use it

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      • If people play to win then utilizing a strategy that improves their chances is the intelligent thing to do. This is similar to people complaining that a certain meta weapon is used, your goal is to win...This is a video game, suggesting any player should not use a certain tactic or weapon that would give them an advantage is dumb, not to mention completely undermines the point of competitive gaming.

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        • It's the smart thing to do to win matches and piss me off. I hate when I'm ready for the team to meet me to only find that they're hard scoping from spawn on a doorway. My group usually figures it out after one or two rounds and ends up taking the rest of the match. Killing campers can be really easy if they constantly commit to camping.

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        • Trials to me have been always about camping. If you really want player to compete put three zones out there and a timer and the team that captures 2 out of3 wins. That way everybody move around and if they dont move they lose.

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        • I find it funny that the only people who really complain about pvp, are the ones that aren't good at it. There's different play styles for different people. If you can't comprehend that then play some pve:)

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          • Couldn't agree more. It's Bungies fault really. Here a fix tho. Make a Special ammo round like they do with heavy. That should hypothetical fix it. It's dumb how it is now. These players can't even use there primary properly any more in trials. Need a special ammo round like there is a heavy ammo round that's it.

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            • [quote]TrialsOhSphincters[/quote]

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              Absolutely completely and utterly unequivocally agree. These campers (meant in both senses of the word) fight with the bravery of being out of range. It's hardly pvp, more like target practice. I'm not for a second suggesting there is no skill involved in hiding and sniping, just that the skill of their opponent is irrelevant. To add insult to injury, they are also the most prevalent campaigners for nerfing shotguns claiming that there is no skill in being a 'shotgun basher'. In my humble opinion it tests the skill far more of both players when they are faced with a closer range battle where each has a chance over one hiding and waiting for the other to move into view. Sniping is more akin to hunting than fighting which I would suggest is not really the idea of pvp.

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              • I remember my favorite week of trials. Widow's court. My only exotic primary was my Mythoclast at 365. We flanked, we had ambushes. We used genuine strategy. We beat teams of snipers (normal and final round), people who rushed with shotguns, and the notorious Thorn. My team won. We got to the lighthouse and for my efforts I got what was in my opinion the best gun in the game, a Solar Scholar Adept. Today, trials is a joke. It's a contest to see who can wait in a corner the longest. No more is strategy used. Now, we wait till the enemy is in the crosshairs and shoot. Shotguns were better than snipers. At least you had to move to use a shotgun. This new meta has the same amount of the skill of the previous ones. However that will never be accepted because "ooh snipers you use one so you must be skillful". I just hope they introduce sniper sway to keep this game fun

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              • The shotgun honeymoon is over fatty. Bungie realized their mistake with overpowered shotguns and they finally corrected it. Go to kfc and cry, you're no good. Also - Learn to aim.

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                • Funny thing is that snipers have stayed relatively the same since the beginning of destiny (minus the slight range nerfs)...right now the problem is that other special weapons aren't really viable (in trials at least). Shotguns have been nerfed so much that if you aren't using Conspiracy theory with rangefinder you're pretty much out of luck. Fusion rifles haven't been competitive since the first nerf...yet snipers haven't changed. With the current meta snipers have no real drawbacks, and yeah some skill is needed to line up headshots but it isn't enough to keep the mass population of trials to use it. I would argue shotguns require more skill now (depending on the map).

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                  • Are you that but hurt? Just don't suck and avoid all sniping lanes you baby. Cry somewhere else.

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                  • My personal favorite is when they want to all camp spawn with snipers expecting us to go to them. We go camp with shotguns every round where the flag will spawn not peeking out at all forcing them to come to us when the time runs out. They lose the close range engagement. The hate mail floods how were shotgun p*ssy f*ggots. My bad we out camped the campers?

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                    • I agree with you. Removing the kill on revives would encourage a team to push more. You should spawn with 0 special on round one and the time needs to be extended. The sniping has gotten ridiculous.

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                    • Holy shit, it's whine about this, whine about that. Why don't you STOP GOD DAMN WHINING AND JUST DEAL. WITH. IT.

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                      • Edited by Erijian: 11/30/2015 2:19:10 AM
                        If people didn't spawn with Special Ammo; you could just rush them into a corner and kill them before they ever got any. Games would be much more interesting. *Saying this because I've noticed that 80% of the Snipers in Trials of Osiris suck massively with their Primary

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                      • Coming from an avid sniper. Yes. The sniping game has become boring now that 80% of players run snipers. I used to love testing my reflexes on random moving targets. But just posting at a spot waiting for a head to pop up. Boring...

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                      • So I went flawless this week using a shotgun every round. Snipers aren't that good because all they do is snipe while camping. I still don't get why people complain about them. Just run around and flank they can't handle it (git gud)

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                        • Everybody knew it was a matter of time hey. Up until 2 months ago, it was shotguns. Shotguns are so op, -blam!-ing noob shotgun running pussies. Shotguns take no skill. Shotguns get the nerfhammer. Amd whaddya know. Now snipers take no skill. Camping with a sniper? Noob. Guy just killed me with a sniper? Noob. Guess what...snipers havent changed!! The highest aim assist snipers in the game with the exception of the iron banner one, which only a handful of people have as it was only available from an rng package, are still year one snipers. Also, people vastly overestimate what aim assist actually does. The reason everybody complains about them now is because more people use. Why? Because shotguns got nerfed to the ground because people complained they were op. Amd they are the same people complaining about snipers now. My final "guess what". The people killing you with snipers? The same people who were killing you with shotguns. And when when snipers get nerfed because you won't stop crying? They'll kill you with fusion rifles. And then sidearms when fusions get nerfed. Do you know why? Because they are better than you. It was never the weapon. It was you, just never have, and never will, want to admit, that maybe you're just not that good at pvp.

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                          • Snipers are getting boring? Yea. Thorn/tlw and shotty were sooooooooooooo much fun

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                          • I saw about 1/3 snipers in my first Trials since last year. It wasn't as bad as I expected. And I got a helmet.

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                          • There's also the problem of cheesing this week. Bungie decided to implement gear with "Gain super energy on revive". So people jump off the map, revive each other, repeat. What do you know, endless supers. Sunsingers coming back from the dead every round. Oh joy.

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                          • Edited by Scarlet: 11/30/2015 6:33:09 AM
                            13,000+ Kills with shotguns 2,000 kills with snipers Opinion invalid.

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                            • tl;dr??

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