Bump for play later.

Yo Sols, sorry I've been out of the loop for a while. Been busy with class. I'm currently in the middle of programming two video game prototypes. That's just the work load for 2 of my classes. I've got 3 other classes that are keeping me busy as well. Looks like I'm about 3 shows behind. I'll try to get a chance to check them all out. Soon.

Good pod cast, agree with most of it besides the Ghost Bullets, which we're already discussing on another thread. I am SEVERELY disappointed in one aspect of the 'Cast though. Ya'll keep calling Supreme Butthurt "SB". I mean c'mon with a name like that you gotta have some fun with it! "Supreme Butthurt... should we call you Sumpreme.. Butt... or Hurt? How about just Butthurt?" "Butthurt... would you say that kind of thing "chaps your ass'?" "Butthurt, when someone summons you to a thread do you hear a toilet flush a la "Al Bundy' or is that just me?" "And how would you say that makes you feel...... Butthurt? "Great thoughts everyone, now let's bring it back around to Butthurt!!" ... and so on...

Yeeeeaahh , this ToM thing is so -blam!-ing stupid, smfh

Remember what I said about the Artifact deflecting Supers?.... [url]https://youtu.be/QvhhIjrOtlg[/url]

Bump

Alright I've finally heard it all, great cast I'm glad you guys went into the more technical things about the changes, most people think balance is as simple as changing a dial But there are a lot of other things like handling, consistency, ease of use, versatility, and general effectiveness Too many say I over think things, but do my stats say thinking? Or action? I know the mechanics of the weapons i use, it may kill slower than yours, but it has more benefits Bad juju ftw

I genuinely hope y'all are married.

Good stuff guys. Perfect episode to summon Supreme Butthurt for, lol. I believe with all the ninja nerfs and misinformation within the patch notes at this point (the PvP reasoning for ToM being nerfed, which ironically has been edited out) it's hard to take Bungie at their word, when they seem to have this philosophy of not telling us the real reasoning why, or constantly with the hidden changes that they sometimes conveniently neglect to mention. I'd love to believe them, but they can only cry wolf so many times.

To be honest it's good... But I agree with everything that was adjusted. Titan shoulder charge Nerf - needed due to new Artifact. Sniper Nerf-Im an experienced sniper, it was warranted. And I could go on, but all in all these adjustments did make the game better in many aspects... Not perfect, but better

Bump, Thorn getting nerfed yet again was complete bullshit, it needed a buff before its Nerf, I would've taken the range Nerf if they buffed the DoT.

Also, I have to throw this out there. And admitting, I'm kind of ashamed I have never noticed this prior as an avid Fusion Rifle user. Many engagements last night I had noticed that what you said Sols about bolts disappearing upon death was true. As a Shotgunner would get within range and OHK me, I would have technically done the same, but upon death would notice on impact that my enemy wasn't being hit with every bolt from my Ashraven's. Is this an intended mechanic of Fusion Rifles? Also, Sidearms are still wicked fun to use.

You gonna do another segment on ghost bullets in the next podcast?

Almost forgot does shaxx sound strange in pvp? lol Someone forgot to mix the vocals?

Okay this will be random on different parts Yes I agree with red wing they should of told us about them removing ib bounties from us before the update apparently they also remove too bounties too I heard from some people on my friend list who have save ing them they were removed to which is a shame I myself had 8 greens on each character cuase the gold count torwards the pvp night fall ones so you can get a head start on next week's pvp nightfall ones by turning in the gold instead of shaxx's red one for the true meaning of war. Ghost bullets I have this gun smith hand cannon which is great it has max stability and rife barrel and it's so much better at hitting than my hand cannons it's silly and I agree I hate when it takes three shots to kill and it's always like the last or second bullet that disappear into thin air just like when you throw grenades into or on to a void hunter before he uses his super and they just disappear even if stuck too him. Image quality I have always thought they are trying to stop fire fly crushing your games that why they mess around with image quality some people are saying when you do firefly now it's like they been hit by a solar fusion gun and they just disappear rather than the head exploding effect they used to have. I don't agree with them missing around with tom but this makes me think that they are going to leave kings fall behind and it will not be brought up to current light level when the new dlc drops. I have not seen any major change to snipers other than people are using it less it still seems to be the same but the nerf did not need to happen. A super should not equal free kills their should be some level of skill to it or else we would have games in pvp where the other team just leaves cuase the winning team after using their supers have too much of an advantage for the losing team to make a comeback I've had this argument before with some people who think supers should require no skill after all it's a super and one side all says well if you pop it in front of me you dersevre to be put down and I agree with that. Shoulder charge needed a nerf some people were using it like their hand to hold their dick to aim when going to the loo it was over used. Roi I'm very excited about the new guns from the vendors I'm going to spend a few minutes going round to see which ones best before spending my marks.

A few quick hits from the TruthCast... 1. ToM - your relation of this nerf to the Gjallarhorn nerf is well put, but I will disagree on the real reason for the Gjallarhorn nerf... it was most likely a combination of factors, the least of which were the forum complaints from LFG players. My guess was always more about HoW weapons being the first in a wave of underwhelming (when compared to earlier guns) weapons that would soon pour from Bungie's creators. They play tested, they knew which guns were better. So long as Ice Breaker, Gjallarhorn, and Fatebringer (amongst other guns) existed, the new ones would be rejected. As poorly as HoW guns were received, TTK guns would be worse and they knew it. So why tell us it was done for LFG reasons? Sure sounds better than "Sorry, we're bringing you some pretty crappy guns you're going to hate. Have to weaken the existing ones or you'll never use the new ones." Doesn't roll off the tongue all that well, does it? 2. Stealth nerfs always happen. I laughed out loud in January when they apologized about getting caught ninja nerfing, and promised to never do it again. Yeah, right. 3. Shoulder charge nerf is the perfect example. "We forgot to mention this." Uh-huh. That said, I understand this one. I could wreak havoc in certain situations, and a PvP loser like me shouldn't be able to do that. I play all three characters equally, so this nerf hit me, but to be honest, it's kind of a stupid power. More than that, it won't have an effect on PvE because, let's face it, who's going to shoulder charge a boss? 4. IB bounties - I've been pretty public on this one. There is no excuse for no warning. 5. Engrams - interesting insight, RedWingGirl. I love your thought processes. 6. I've been noticing grain now for a while, but only limited and only in certain scenarios. It's not been game-breaking, but it is annoying. 7. I notice my gun randomly stops firing when using fusions, shotguns, and auto rifles. The other guns seem to work fine. As for the ghost bullet issue, Lost Sols's thoughts are well-put. How do you simulate hand cannons' relative innaccuracy? Dad was a gun dealer, and I've fired a lot of real-life hand cannons. Beyond a certain range, I don't care how good you are, you are going to have a spread of bullets. Bungie's statement about measured fire (pacing shots, not fanning the hammer) rings true to me. I tend to pace my rounds and pretty much hit what I'm shooting at, which works great for PvE. PvP? It's a fine line because of the TTK of different weapons. You really have to push the limits to be competitive. Some rounds are going to miss, and they should. I always play around with different guns (and my stats prove it), but after finally getting an Eyasluna to drop, I've found a pretty solid competitive PvP hand cannon. Mine has a boost to range, and it has the reach to compete with most close to mid-range weaponry. I've been trying to use hand cannons 90% of the time in patrols to get the feel of the weapon, and I guess the practice is starting to pay off. With the Eyasluna I've been competitive. 8. If you had asked me what I was looking forward to in Rise of Iron, or how I felt about it, I would say fearful. I pay attention to patterns, and Bungie's pattern is they never tell you everything, especially when it comes to the bad stuff. What they did to year one gear in TTK is bad enough, but that they held back what they were going to do with it AND forced players to buy it again without knowing was larceny. And just when those old feelings about that start to fade, this latest patch comes along and reminds me these jokers cannot be trusted. Will I buy it? Almost certainly. Will I pre-order? Certainly not. I will wait a bit and see what the early reception is. If they move along the lines of the April update, I would happily jump on board. If they pull another TTK surprise I'll wait a few months and pick it up in the bargain bin - if then.

So what your saying is buff titans

One more thing for ya. I was learning to fusion. Here are the results of my day with a fusion rifle. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jSYMGU5aKQ4

I took a break from destiny over the summer and now I'm ready for Roi. First episode I was able to listen to on the podcast. Pretty cool guys. Keep up the good work!

Edit hate auto correct: Bump, ToM change is….yeah wtf. I guess is not a real destiny update until you find something completely unnecessary done in it. Also completely pissed my IB bounties are gone, Most annoying one is the top overall score. A heads up would have been nice. Im raging inside. I was just starting to like sniper in pve and started to try and use them in pvp,… not anymore….maybe. Moving on, I've asked a few people already, but Is anyone getting empty packages for the Cryptarch, Variks, or any tower venders after ranking up? I cant be the only only one. If so, bungie has it out for me. Please let me know, also 3oc feels nerfed. Not that I was getting drops at all, but I'm not even getting one exotic at all now.

Check this out guys: [url]https://www.bungie.net/en/Forums/Post/212825953?sort=0&page=0[/url] from DeeJ himself.