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9/10/2016 4:37:41 AM
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Why Trump is going to win the election.
Short answer? Gary Johnson; I'll explain. Almost every single time a two people have run for POTUS on the same side of the social spectrum, they have forfeited the position of President to the opposite party. Although yes, Gary is a Libertarian and Hillary is a Democrat, they both attract generally left thinking voters. Now that there are three candidates, the vote becomes split between those who tend to favor left. For the sake of argument, lets say every candidate gets equal distribution of their parties votes, and that there are equal voters on the right of left (Yes, very black and white, but it's just an explanation). With simple math, we can pit Hillary and Trump against each other, with the both getting 50% of the vote. If you add another candidate to the running pool, you are forcing either the left or right to relinquish a percentage. Again, an example, but since Gary would be on the left, Hillary and him now share that 50%, meaning Gary gets 25%, Hillary gets 25%, and Trump gets majority at 50%.
TLDR: Gary Johnson split the Democratic vote. Trump wins.
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1 Replystill beating off that dead horse i see, interesting...
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3 RepliesGeneric political post number #648954
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11 RepliesThe fact that people still believe Hilary may not win is -blam!-ing laughable. You want to peddle the rhetoric that she gets paid off corporations, that she controls the media, you read the DNC emails, you see her get away clean from the email charges, and you think this shit isn't rigged? Hillary knew she'd be president before she started running. Also, simple question really, this whole line of anti-Hillary rhetoric. The whole "crooked Hillary" thing, why was it never brought up when she ran against Obama?
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4 Replies#HillaryforPrison #TrumpforLoonyBin
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Look at the electoral map.
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6 RepliesI like the fact I've seen no one in the forums that like Hillary, but outside, Hillary is way to overhyped, and somehow still not in prison. I'm not saying Trump will be good as president (he will not) but he is 10x better then lies-about-everything Clinton The third party needs more attention, Gary especially, though he didn't know anything about Aleppo, that was just a mistake. Though it is 90% sure that he won't win, he will get a pretty good amount of votes
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[quote]Gary is a Libertarian[/quote]HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHA
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5 RepliesEdited by Flee: 9/15/2016 4:24:56 PM[quote] Although yes, Gary is a Libertarian and Hillary is a Democrat, they both attract generally left thinking voters[/quote]Only, libertarianism typically attracts more conservative and right wing people, as the left generally supports a larger government while libertarians favor as small of a government as possible. If anything, Johnson would draw away republican votes from Trump. Libertarians are a lot more like republicans in terms of involvement in social issues, foreign policy and tax.
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6 RepliesEdited by Flynn: 9/14/2016 5:25:57 PMI'm pretty sure Gary Johnson would end up doing the opposite in splitting the Republican vote. Libertarians tend to lean right.
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12 RepliesI would love Trump or Johnson to win. However, I believe Hillary will win because of media bias, media propaganda, her lack of transparency, and fraud.
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2 RepliesYou realize there have always been 3rd parties, right? The last third party candidate to win electoral votes was George Wallace of the American Independent Party in 1968. This isn't something new.
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You realize there have always been 3rd parties, right? The last third party candidate to win electoral votes was George Wallace of the American Independent Party in 1968. This isn't something new.
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1 ReplyTRUMP WILL WIN AND THE 4th REICH WILL RISE!!! SIEG HEIL FOR HARAMBE
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3 RepliesEdited by Icarus026: 9/11/2016 9:48:24 PMI mean, Libertarians want little to no government. Democrats want more government. Besides, the people's votes don't matter in the presidential election. And with the Electoral College system you have a winner-takes-all kind of thing. In order for Gary to have any votes, he'd have to win over a state. Which we all know isn't going to happen.
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#Trump2016 [spoiler]Bring it on![/spoiler]
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4 RepliesI'll be back here to laugh at you come Election Day.
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2 RepliesEdited by Vgnut: 9/10/2016 8:01:25 AM[quote]TLDR: Gary Johnson split the Democratic vote. Trump wins.[/quote] Except we know this isn't the case. Johnson is pulling from Democrats and Republicans largely due to how unlikable Clinton and Trump are. Also the vote split you've posted is absurd. Johnson is nowhere near the 15% polling average to get into the debates are you're posting him at getting 25%? And Clinton at 25%? She's going to be vastly above that solely on the basis that she's the Democratic nominee for the president. Ross Perot didn't even get 20% of the vote and he was a much more popular candidate than Johnson is. You'd have to go back to 1912 to see a scenario like the one you described play out. And that's when Theodore Roosevelt ran for his own party. Johnson isn't Theodore Roosevelt.
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[quote]Although yes, Gary is a Libertarian and Hillary is a Democrat, they both attract generally left thinking voters. Now that there are three candidates, the vote becomes split between those who tend to favor left.[/quote]
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25 RepliesEdited by RandyDaGod: 9/10/2016 8:38:11 PMBill Clinton vs Bush Sr vs Ross Perot says your theory is wrong. Libertarians aren't left leaning either. They believe in fiscal conservatism and socially liberal. Constitutionalism. Gary Johnson isn't taking anymore from Clinton than he is Trump. [spoiler]Clinton is going to win[/spoiler]
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*Ahem* Perot *leaves*
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4 RepliesThink he fell flat on his face with the what is Aleppo comment when asked about foreign affairs if he was president Good on him for not denying it like others would though
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Libertarians are far right on the spectrum.
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2 Replies[quote]Although yes, Gary is a Libertarian and Hillary is a Democrat, they both attract generally left thinking voters.[/quote] Mmm... I disagree. The Libertarian platform is not at all similar to the Democratic platform.
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Don't forget Jill Stein.
