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originally posted in: LOSE THE SNIPERS
1/3/2016 7:13:24 PM
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And whose fault is it that we have weak Ass primaries and secondaries? You guessed it... NERFERS. And now you want to do the same to snipers, thinking, "oh, well maybe this time the nerf will make it all better." NOPE. Y'all will just move on to something else to complain about. Most people just can't accept that there exist better players than themselves and think nerfing things will close the skill gap. It won't.
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  • Edited by Killlerschaf: 1/3/2016 8:51:47 PM
    I'm ranked 1500th worldwide in Rift and am a top 1 percent player in terms of score per game average in Control. Skill was never an issue and I advocate for nerfs nonetheless. You don't understand balancing. That's fine, but don't pretend that you do. Bungie actively balances towards a high TTK design since the first round of nerfs. If you don't understand that, this is your issue. They basically doubled TTK on most primaries, and as long as they do not intend to revert these Nerfs, snipers need to conform to the new balancing reality. As snipers were conceived for a metagame with a faster TTK, they need added balancing mechanics to conform to the current in game reality. In reality, it's not even worth a debate if snipers are too strong currently. They simply are.

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  • *slow clap* There's a distinct difference between balance and whatever bungie is doing to the weapons. Each big weapons patch has rendered an archetype of weapon relatively useless. Balance would leave them as a viable option. Bungie simply nerfs them into the ground. Sorry if you don't understand that.

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  • We are discussing different issues. Nerfs for the Vex, Suros, the HC trinity and lately pulses, were all needed, as those guns simply outperformed everything else in their respective era. That Bungie balances horribly overall... I agree with that. Their balancing team has no idea how to truly balance and just put out blanket nerfs to whole weapon classes instead of fixing on a per weapon basis. But in terms of balancing towards a higher TTK, all the decisions actually make sense (more or less). You don't like the direction in which their balancing team goes, and that's (more or less) understandable. But given the current balancing reality, snipers are too strong. And that won't change until Bungie rebuffs everything else or nerfs snipers.

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