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Edited by RandyMarsh: 2/16/2015 9:50:51 PM
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ANOTHER LIE? SO THE COMMUNITY KNOWS XUR AND THE GAME ARE NOT TRUE RNG, NOW WHAT?

1:04- DeeJ's video I'M TIRED OF ALL THE -blam!-ING LIES; FROM THE HYPE THAT I BOUGHT THE GAME BELIEVING TO THE CRAP WE HAVE TO DEALING WITH NOW. IF YOU ARGUE ABOUT WEIGHTED PROBABILITY, YOU HAVE NO CONCEPT OF WHAT TRUE RNG IS; HERES WHY! 1. A WEIGHTED DIE TO ROLL A 4 MORE OFTEN THAN NOT IS CONTROLLED AND SELECTED BY THE CREATOR OF THE DIE 2. A NON WEIGHTED DIE WHERE ALL THINGS ARE EQUAL IS TRUE RNG BECAUSE ITS CLOSE TO BEING TRULY RANDOM. DESTINY WAS CREATED USING #1. -> "THE PLAN" DEEJ's LEAK 1. Most employees are fired for releasing controversial information (true or not) 2. DeeJ was forced put out a community apology instead of being fired because being fired would have just proved to the community that Xur was not RNG 3. DeeJ's earlier posts are about how useless the updates are or how pointless his job is, probably in retaliation to getting in trouble for the leak. 4. When DeeJ reply's to troll post about leaks he calls them a troll and is very non serious. When DeeJ reply's to actual leeks he is very serious. DeeJ's quote: [quote]Hey, there. Let me attempt to clear some things up here. Xur is randomized. There are times when we can pull off miracles like making him stay in the Tower longer when Christmas is cancelled, but his inventory is governed by the same chaos that influences all the loot drops. Comments in that video about "the plan" were more about the fact that we know what he's selling before he appears, even if we can't reach out and stock his shelves ourselves. We set him in motion, and his will is not his own. Also in that video, you can hear me confessing that I'm not always in the loop when it comes to these things, so you should take pre-game lobby comments among friends with a grain of salt. That video was from months ago, and I was still learning the intricacies of all the new systems that we launched with the game. These conspiracy theories are symptoms of a burning desire. Gjallarhorn is the most popular ask that comes my way. I know you want it, even more than the collective requests for more vault space. As you can see, these are things that are beyond my control. I don't have one either. I'll do my best to talk to the people who create the code that drives Xur, and see if we can make him more valuable to you in the future.[/quote] THIS IS WHAT PERFECT RNG LOOKS LIKE WITH EQUAL CHANCES A 1/14 chance at each exotic weapon HERE IS A ALGORITHM: I made an algorithm from my calculus textbook using 14 exotic weapons and using TLW as an example: x=0 to "# of weeks" 1-(x!/(0!*(x-0)!))*(1/14)^(0)*(5/14)^(x) plot If you run the number of weeks it will give you the probability of it being in his inventory by that # of weeks. I assumed two things: that they are weighted equally and that Xur is completely random 1. Hard Light 2. SUROS Regime 3. MIDA Multi-Tool 4. Red Death 5. The Last Word 6. Universal Remote 7. No Land Beyond 8. Ice Breaker 9. Patience and Time 10. Plan C 11. Dragon's Breath 12. Gjallarhorn 13. Thunderlord 14. Truth You can run the equation yourself if you are interested. But if we don't see a repeat of all exotics in the loot table by next September There is no way that Xur is RNG. Edit 2 *** here's the original reason "Are you unhappy with Xur: Agent of the Nine's inventory in Destiny and are cursing Destiny developer Bungie for it? well, Bungie is innocent and has nothing to do with Xur: Agent of the Nine inventory, its completely random and not Bungie-made" Edit 3** Nothing in this game is RNG https://www.bungie.net/en/Forum/Post/101836196/0/0/1

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  • What are the chances that xur will sell all dlc exotics at once 2 times? Almost impossible. If he was rng he would have already sold every exotic already. For example xur sold sunbreakers and voidfang vestment more than heart if praxic fire for weeks, how is that rng? He hasn't sold skull of ahamkara either yet, he hasn't sold the light beyond nemesis for 2-3 months. So exactly, If xur was rng he would have sold every exotic piece in the game before house of wolves release.

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    • Wrong. If it's random you have no way to recreate or disprove. Short of seeing the actual code, there is nothing you can say to prove or disprove. The only thing of note is.. He said they let it run random, with an option of manipulating the results if needed. At least that's what I took from it. So I take it at face value, especially being bungie has gone hard core on sticking with rng.

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      • You are missing some exotics. You don't have them all

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      • I can't believe there is video proof that xur's inventory is controlled and people still want to argue that he is random.

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        • Wow! I'm surprised he isn't fired for this. That is undeniable proof that I was right! I said this the first month!! Now you all see!

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        • Why does it matter if Xur is RNG? Why do you care?

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        • Random cannot be factually calculated, only theorized.

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          • Who the hell cares.

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            • get a life perhaps?

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              • Who cares. "They are lying to us" wtf do you people think this is. It's a game. Nothing but a game, get over it

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              • I feel bad for scrubs like you. I have all my fav guns already 😜😜😜. It just makes the game so much more fun knowing you can use so many different variations of weapons

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              • Xur is not random

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              • Edited by ASAP Rocky: 2/5/2015 11:52:37 AM
                If Xur is random.. Why did almost every piece of DLC armor drop 2 weeks in a row?? Also.. Out of all the weapons, Dragons Breath and No Land Beyond have been sold twice?? [b][i][u]WAKE UP PEOPLE! [/u][/i][/b] If that's not clear as day, you must be a ginger hiding in the shadows.

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                • There were times xur didn't sell exotic engrams but now he does... Was this random? Or did they make him decide wether or not he sold them? Does the rng go for the guns? The armor? Or everything he sells? And who's to say they don't limit what xur has to pick from to be able to sell? Instead of all the exotics, they could make it so he only picks from a small number of exotics he randomly sells(like 2 or 3), thus making it a little less random(if this is true)

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                • Idiots. Random. Random. [b]it's random[/b]

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                  • Stop this. You can't predict random.

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                  • http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/f/f3/Tin_foil_hat_2.jpg

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                  • I must have missed something. How is it you think a Random Number Generator is obligated to repeat anything?

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                    • I think xur has many layers to the rng for weapons the first layer is random of primary special then heavy then after one is rolled the second layer is rolled (let's say primary) the rng is of what it chooses is out of the gun type pool so like auto rifle pulse rife hand cannon. Then third layers is the actual gun roll. And then for armour first layer would be Armour slots then second rng layer would be the exotic pool of that armour type.

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                    • Jesus Crust are you people seriously gonna blow this shit up? If yall are that -blam!-ing mad that they don't give you everything you -blam!-ing want then delete the -blam!-ing game and move on. Simple.

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                    • So, Xur is RNG. The title is deceiving.

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                    • I believe he's random as is everything else, but I believe certain weapons and armor are weighted different on the loot table! I've also noticed a trend with the hallowed gjally, it seems if you have it you're more likely to get it again, I've friends who've never seen it, but some friends have had it drop 4-5 times for them!

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                    • Destiny rng is not normal rng. It has some problem that the devs won 't acknowledge. with it giving you what you already have, have just got or have dismantled. If Xur is based off the same exact code then he to is infected with that same problem. How people like you don't or can't grasp this is beyond me.

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                      [quote]I actually don't give a flying -blam!- what xur sells as I have all exotic weapons.[/quote] ...actually, you don't, as you're still missing: Thunderlord Super Good Advice Plan C Invective MIDA Multi Tool ...just sayin ;)

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                      • Edited by Sparrow News: 2/5/2015 3:49:57 AM
                        Errrrrrrrrrrrrrrgh..... its random didn't you hear. ..... GOSH!

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                      • You treated everything equal weight, so it's random ?

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