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2/15/2024 11:03:16 PM
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Bungie Dec 07th TWID: "We have no plans to turn Checkmate on across all of Crucible."
Bungie Feb 15th TWID:
"Player health will be increased by 30 HP in base Crucible..."
"Melee, Grenade, and class ability cooldowns now have a 15% penalty applied to them in Crucible only."
"Super cooldowns now have a 20% penalty applied to them in Crucible only. "
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1 ReplyThis was obviously the plan. They should just be straight up about it rather than do this 'Totally Not Checkmate *Wink*' PvP update that's very clearly the foundation for Checkmate.
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Plans change.
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Contradicting Hypocrites= Bungie.
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12 RepliesMe when I crop a quote to fit my narrative
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2 RepliesEdited by eeriearcade: 2/15/2024 11:23:29 PMIt’s a little confusing, but they used a diluted version of Checkmate to tune regular Crucible. You chopped off the bit that explains that. [quote]We have no plans to turn Checkmate on across all of Crucible. Instead, we’re aiming for a midway point for ability cooldowns and weapon cooldowns that doesn’t result in specific weapons dominating.[/quote] https://www.bungie.net/7/en/News/Article/this-week-in-destiny-12-07-23 Checkmate will remain its own thing.
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So we’re making it like vanilla D2? Where it was slow and boring again
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We've come full circle... Finally... the go slow update.
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2 RepliesThey are a bunch of passive aggressive morons who listen to the wrong people and get their friends fired because they’re too stupid to read through this forum for once.
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And what exactly is so wrong with less zero skill requiring ability spam? How about you start using weapons? In a shooter? Like is that idea that crazy?
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No one should be surprised by this, this is bungie we’re talking about. The same people who not long ago said they want to make PvP better for their dedicated players, and it’s still a garbage show 💀
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5 RepliesEdited by The Hermit IX: 2/17/2024 2:35:31 AMMore like Checkmate light and they didn’t lie. If you followed all of their updates you’d understand that. The changes sound good to me but I’ll reserve the right to change my opinion after I try the changes. I think what they’re doing is hitting pain points that for years have had bandaid solutions. It’s so tiresome dealing with 100 threadlings being spammed and a guy in the back getting easy kills with a bow. Special being earned instead of just picking up bricks too. I personally would of preferred them starting matches with none. Snipers holding down movement out of the gates promotes slow matches. TTK isn’t changing and they’re balancing things out for more level play. Abilities are being toned down to promote more gun play instead of players mainly relying on abilities to get kills. Gun play is what defines Bungie games. I like what they’re doing and they can tweak it as they go.
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Ya....PVP is Dead.
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DO not be fooled by PvP objective modes like Checkmate since that will be turned into CheckClash. Any mode you play these days are all about just defeating opponents rather than playing objectives. Control - capture zones and while defeating opponents. Nah it's Clash somehow players figured out that A,B, and C means nothing. Just go around defeat opponents while other players like myself stands on A,B, or C to capture it. Then defeat opponents along the way to another zone or reclaim a zone back. Iron Banner still suffers the same fate as regular crucible. Trials and Competitive still suffering from more cheaters. Want proof? Go talk to Gernader Jake when he streams Trials every weekend.
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This is a mesh of Checkmate rules and regular PVP rules. It most certainly is not *just* Checkmate. But i see your point. That Bungie comment seems misleading
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They HATE abilities. Go back to Halo.
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1 ReplySoooooo…. Did you also miss that they were building Checkmate to find a sort of “middle ground” that put gunplay back as the focus… TTK will be the same or extremely close for all archetypes, but you’re going to need more headshots. Special ammo being added to the checkmate system is okay but not great. - my only real issue with the pass as this tends to make snowballing a lot worse. Problem children the community has been complaining about (bows and SMGs in particular) are getting hit
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[quote]"Player health will be increased by 30 HP in base Crucible..."[/quote] With matching crit damage buff so optimal TTK remains the same. (Not Checkmate) It's like people are being purposefully obtuse.
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2 Repliesthat was joe vision, joe is gone and the new update is a mix of checkmate and regular crucible = perfect
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1 Replywell the new changes will not make all crucible checkmate, is a NERFED version that every player asked for a long time even before checkmate was a thing
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2 RepliesSelective quoting to prove a point that doesn’t exist
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All the things they said put together make it sound like its not just checkmate. PvP was not going to change significantly without changing the nuts and bolts of PvP. Most of what a lot of people demand on here is for whatever they like to simply be buffed and what they hate to be nerfed. Which is fine but that is mostly surface level stuff compared to the changes they're making now. Definitely have to see what the matchmaking is going to be like in the next update. But if it was just going to be checkmate that's what this twab would have said. It would have said "everything is going to be checkmate" instead of outlining how PvP is going to evolve going forward. Also, by now people should know that when it comes to twabs with large numbers of numbers that usually means that it has to be played for people to really get an idea about what's different.
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1 ReplyBunige or I should say Joe said they want it more about the guns and less about the abilities . The game as a whole feels like we need more buffs to weapons . Try using Bungies great weapon revision zero to kill the little dude before he turns off the abilities at the start of the strike . That dumb gun was garbage , they really need to give the sniper shots ammo that just runs out . That gun has zero utility outside of barriers. But gets out classed by everything else.
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HP got buffed but so did most weapon damage and ability uptime was too much previously. So far so good?
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So not checkmate still?
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9 RepliesVery funny, now write the things you left out
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LOL af
