[quote]You trashed the one warlock class that was amazing for PvP. Now its just PVE for warlocks.[/quote] Someone doesn't know how to warlock lmao 🤣

No one should need to be a top player for something to be good. Most people aren’t top players. I’m not, and the vast majority of people playing the game aren’t either. Things should be fun and effective regardless of skill level, and made more effective with high skill level. There should always be a lot of ways for skillful players to get more use out of things, I’m not arguing against that. I’m also not saying the game should hold your hand, but instead that things should flow and work together well in a cohesive manner that don’t put the player at a disadvantage. Most things on Dawnblade put you at a disadvantage lol. I mean Daybreak in PvE is an absolute joke in any scenario. Being in the air like the class wants you to be is a death sentence in any content outside of patrols and regular strike playlists. Only ways to heal yourself are multi kills with Icarus equipped in the air, or consuming a grenade. Either way there’s only one play style that’s decent and it’s near impossible to benefit from the Icarus healing unless heat rises is equipped, and heat rises always requires airtime to fully take advantage of. Touch of Flame is an afterthought because you’re either consuming the Grenade to heal ir activate heat rises, or if Icarus is the other aspect, you’re not taking full advantage of the Icarus healing because you don’t have the buffs you get from being in hair with heat rises. Dawnblade had little-to-no synergy outside of a single build and people are tired of being Well bots, just how Titans were tired of being Domebots. At least Sentinel has an extremely fun and well functioning neutral game. Dawnblade does not.

It did make things better, for hunters and titans lol. I personally feel giving all classes a healing grenade was the biggest mistake in solar 3.0. That definitely needed to be a solar warlock exclusive since the class is supposed to be all about being a support. Bungie talks all this BS about class identity but its clear they have no idea what they are doing. Even in arc 3.0, you would think the titan aspect that boost grenades would be a warlock thing, but nope. I don’t even know what a warlocks identity is anymore, its all over the place.

I really don't have any issue with the class in general, except that Phoenix dive has close to a 2 mins cooldown. Even with next to no build crafting you have nigh infinite class and melee energy uptime and infinite grenades if you opt into a Elemental or Charged with light build. My main issue is the Daybreak super is hella -blam!- even WITH Dawn Chorus. You could literally throw everything (scorch, Ignition, tractor cannon etc) at Daybreak and it'll still do less damage than a handful of fusion grenades. When I can out damage a buffed up super using an exotic that's supposed to make it better just by throwing a few fusion grenades... We have an issue. Heck, if anything Light 3.0 essentially power crept all roaming supers out of existence in pve. Our melee and grenade abilities do so much damage and ad clear with so much uptime you're better off not using your super for anything other than for special ammo finisher or something. Daybreak needs to Scorch by default and have Chorus ignite, or have Chorus extend the super on ignition kills or something so it actually last long enough to clear a room or deal decent damage. Or, I'd opt they just scrap it all together and just give Warlock the Harvester Scythe as our roaming super. It can scorch. It can ignite. It has a tracking projectile and it can spawn healing orbs. It's the Pinnacle weapon for a healer/support class with the urge to burn things.

Sounds like a skill issue, it's fine 🤷🏻‍♂️

What…if…we… just got subclass 1.0. Cause those were amazing times. *sighs in fear of arc hunters*

Dawnblade is amazing what?

its not even worth using in PvE either..

Dawnblade is still the best PvP Warlock class imo.

Subclasses 3.0 have been a nightmare for Warlocks. Warlocks need a ritual to cleanse themselves of this nightmare, call Eris Morn. 3.0 has been nothing but what can we take from Warlocks and give to the hunters and titans? And give them nothing in return.

To be honest, all it needs is a healing aspect that makes benevolent dawn intrinsic- it should’ve never become a fragment

Solar 3.0 took warlocks from easily teamwiping the team half over to balanced wow. Now we just need t9 nerf deadshot on Golden Gun, the refunding bullet bit