And which players would use CBMM and which would use SBMM? You'd have the exact same issue. It's like people don't think before posting.

I mean back in CBMM the sweats would still use the meta so that excuse isn't really valid in my eyes.

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It was and nobody played it. It's called comp.

The fix is so simple make QP CBMM and comp SBMM.

lol what is your argument even? that your feelings are hurt? you sound illogical and upset, not rational and clear-minded. Maybe don't get so mad about it and roll with it? You might actually get good.

You do realize that if there is a SBMM mode as you have asked for that only sweats will play in the so called casual mode. Bad players would never enter the casual mode as they would just get stomped. This is a good move by Bungie. Your so called loadout options and not wanting to face sweats all the time should not come at the expense of bad players. Even if Bungie offered both CBMM and SBMM the same players would end up being matched. Casual mode would just be predatory and no casual would go in so you would just end up facing sweats.

This was exactly what bungie did with Comp and QP and you all cried for everything to be SBMM anyway. This is the bed you made.

I think everything you said was wrong

We knew this would happen. SBMM is an ego check for a lot of players. They were fine stomping low level players but now that they have to play their equal’s they don’t like it.

I shoulder charged the same person 3 times in 1 game trying to blind for the stupid challenge; connected everytime but did no damage and was shotgun melee'd before my animation even finished so.. that's been fun.

How about just get gud

You realize this just creates sbmm. U put it in a separate playlist and if 90% of the “bad players” go there the CBMM is just the top players playing against each other.

[quote]I think SBMM should be a separate playlist for those who are subpar average skill level in casual pvp. Reason being they most likely don’t like it and only play 3 games a week, or they are trying to get better. I don’t think it’s fair that players who live and breath crucible are now cornered into using meta load outs since they are now suspending left games. The only ones who like SBMM belong to the group mentioned in my first point. Also, the connections can be -blam!-, and now we have to stay in a game with laggers, otherwise be shunned out for 30 minutes? I think the whole idea is toxic. Edit: I notice a lot of comments on other posts stating how pvp players are fuming because we no longer can mop up lobbies and have to play our own skill level…that’s not the problem! I don’t mind facing competitive players…hmmm idk maybe in a competitive playlist?? It’s the fact that we now have compete and sweat in a “casual” playlist is asinine. I am a highly diverse player, and love niche builds and producing quality games with them. It’s invigorating and something I believe that destiny can only offer. But it’s not fun when you try that now and get cream pied by clearly better weapons, and outperforming gear/subclasses against players that are equal skill in every direction. Epitome of now bringing a knife to a gunfight. Which now brings full circle…give us the choice of SBMM control, and CBMM control, that’s all I ask. Edit 2.0: This is to all the PvE mains: imagine the area of content of which you thrive is now on raid hard mode difficulty AT ALL TIMES. Strikes are no longer casual, you now have to outfit yourself with 2 other competent players running meta pve loads outs just to run a casual strike like it’s a grandmaster nightfall….yeah think about it. You’d be ok with that?[/quote] absolutely not so no pub stomping for you

Great idea to have both SB & CB 6v6 playlists at the same time. But, most CB’ers don’t want the average skill players to have that choice. I wonder why?

This was done the last time SBMM came around. The SBMM playlist was full of lower end players and the CBMM was full of sweats.

You do understand that probably for you to enjoy a game, and for it to be easy so you can use different load outs, and chill and not have to sweat. Someone has to suffer on the other team . Maybe your lagging to them, or just can't match your skill and after being stomped turns game off. I totally understand that also you like winning too, and enjoying the game but to actual want to play some matches that are easy, does drive other players away from the game or crucible. I use to play more crucible but stopped except for triumphs or missions. But these last few weeks the few I've played have been more enjoyable and although not being top play in my team feel I can improve more than before, then playing mostly players way out of my league Just hope maybe bungie finds a way for all to enjoy