They really haven’t because they have made the grind ridiculous for so many things in This game. D1 didn’t have nearly as much grind. If I recall like smith said he wanted us to not have to grind as much and wanted to respect our time. Right.......

Yet those who are upset about this are probably still going to log in or buy the next expansion. Bungie is doing the same thing over and over. It’s not going to get better.......

Let me get this straight. The forums want this for every expansion: 1. Meaningful loot tied to activities. 2. Powerful loot 3. Their gear to still be relevant and good indefinitely. Okay. That will 100% of the time introduce power creep or make new weapons appear meaningless. Period. So now Bungie is facing the problem and feedback that there's so much to do, so many activities in expansions, and none of it matters. Well, there are three ways to address that upon a major DLC release: 1. Nerf the previous meta every time. I hope this doesn't need explanation as to why that's a garbage idea. 2. Release weapons that are inherently more powerful in terms of stats, perks, damage, etc. in order to overshadow the previous meta. Sounds good on paper, but what about 2 expansions down the road? 3? Our power would grow without bounds to the point where the gsme would have to be designed around that power. How do we know that? The disaster that was Reckoning. I for one do not want the release version of Reckoning to be present throughout the entire game. 3. Put a infusion cap on weapons. This will bring value to new weapons immediately without diminishing the effectiveness of our previous weapons in non-endgame activities. Right now, no new SMG on console will be considered by the majority of players unless it's better than Recluse. No shotgun was considered at all over Ikelos until Threat Level was released. Heck. The majority of hand cannons users stuck to Midnight Coup all the way to Black Armory, where Threat Level gave competition for the slot. That's the trend. Players did not have a reason to hunt for loot at all since outliers we're left uncapped. Put a cap on those weapons and now all of a sudden, new weapons have a purpose. They have value. If these new weapons are at least good and are plentiful, this is the best option. Pick which option you want. But the best is definitely 3.

Go play fortnite

Sure let's only use izanagi, recluse and spike nade launchers for endgame for the rest of destiny's lifespan. 👶🍼

[quote]I’ve played D1 since launch but I will not be biting your next expansion. Good luck[/quote] Biting???

They've never respected our time. There's a reason we start two areas away from where the actual mission starts.

Everyone was happy in D1 when we got infusion, Idk what these devs got the idea that players want their stuff to be obsolete after a while. We are actually regressing at this point and for anyone that didn’t get the hint, they also said those guns you worked so hard to get in the last would eventually come over to the new seasons which means guess what? More recycled content. You got that god rolled spare rations? You ready to get it again?

The only person not respecting your time is YOU ! Quit playing this broken game - it will not get better. Respect your time and move on and leave it behind. I quit last May along with most the other players I rolled with and it was the best thing we ever did in our history of gaming together. The only thing worth keeping is this community here - the game however - is trash.

They might still be under the impression that D1 to D2 losing all out stuff was a good move. I still miss some of the weapons I never got back in D2, Gally, Icebreaker, etc. This is just that dumb move, ALL OVER AGAIN.

Sigh you completely miss the point, they’re doing this for a couple reasons, d2 was power creeping and that creates too many issues. They want to make new weapons interesting and fun to get, they want to be able to make pinnacles or pinnacle like weapons of power again but if they can’t shelf them down the road then the issues they create will be nerfed down the road and that just pisses people off. This new system literally has to be better so those who don’t get why it’s happened don’t leave. If there was ever a choice bungies made that could better the game it’s honestly this one. To sum up, we will get better rituals or pinnacles back, power creep problem is addressed so fewer powerful weapon nerfs, more interesting loot in each dlc.