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11/12/2018 5:07:44 PM
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Account recoveries have finally broken PvP.

Since Bungie has been giving out the base game for free, the booster business has been booming. Are you wondering why all you see in QP and Comp are underleveled characters, most of them slaying like they were born to play Destiny and ruin your day? It's even worse in Competitive, where a hell of a lotta Luna's Howl users are lagging around, with just about 50 games under their belt. Do you really think new players are just that talented? Some of them may absolutely be. The majority though are just exploiting the game for profit and ruining your experience along the way. Here are some facts: - I know at least a dozen people who are using Aimbots and a software lag switch. I've seen them do it, most admitted to cheating and all of them got their Not Forgotten that way. - I personnaly know guys who take over clanmate's accounts and earn them Luna's Howl and Not Forgotten. The majority don't play legit and use cheats. - I know 2 guys who got banned for cheating, a few months ago. Now that the game is free, the both made 30 accounts and counting, are back to full-on cheating and are selling accounts on eBay, with the Not Forgotten unlocked. - There are a ton of websites, so-called Booster Services, following the same strategy -as those 2 guys, buying Forsaken by the truckload, cheating their way through the Comp playlist as fast as possible and selling those accounts for up to 500$ apiece. The consequences are felt across all the PvP playlists. Genuine new players fall victim to the horrible matchmaking - more the lack therof - and don't even understand what's happening to them. I've seen very talented and accomplished CS:GO and Overwatch veterans, one of them a former pro, get mauled in D2 PvP without even understanding how. All of them just laughed at the brokenness of this game and uninstalled it after a few weeks. The problem are not just the account recoveries and smurfing in general. It's a combination of factors that contribute to the laughable condition the game is in right now. The root problem is the netcode. P2P, as complex as it may be in D2, allows high latency to be beneficial for the one who's lagging. As long as we don't get to play on dedicated servers, people are going to exploit this to their advantage. On PC it's as easy as downloading a tiny piece of software and binding the lag switch to a key. P2P leaves clients IPs out in the open, giving ample opportunity to DOS and DDOS your way to the top of the ranks. I know a lot of people don't believe that D2 ist that easy to exploit but it just is. Accept it. I'm pretty sure that Destiny has become the most exploited online game in history. At least of the one's I have played and I'm 38 years old. I've been playing online FPS games since Quake. I've literally seen it all. As much as I love Destiny, this has become an absolute joke and a nightmare to play. Because it's so easy to cheat and the game is basically free right now, prepare yourself for it to become even worse, as more and more "players" buy and/or cheat their way through the game without even a hint of a counter from Bungie. Forsaken had me very hopeful for the future of the franchise and PvE is mostly fine. PvP is in serious danger, though. Bungie HAS to start implementing some serious anti-cheat measures, invest in upgrading to dedicated servers for PvP and rework their matchmaking and ranking system from the ground up. If not PvP is going to belong to cheaters and playlists will get even more unplayable than they are right now.

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  • Bungo needs to grow some balls and do what every other major gaming studio does for their pvp community... First is to be extremely strict with smurfing. League of legends, over watch, fckin fortnite as examples have very specific rules for people responsible of griefing and reverse boosting in their games are they perfect no but they at least attempt to handle it... destiny needs to fix its matchmaking, punish cheating shítwads,, ban boosting and reverse boosting and sue the ever loving jesus out of anyone selling accounts to make profit.

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  • Sad but nothing’s going to change. Why doesn’t someone make a video on the way to cheat that way everyone can understand and it takes away there edge

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    • Here is what I don't get. Why in the world would anyone cheat in a silly video game that means absolutely nothing. The fun is learning how to play, using new weapons and getting beat as well. It is really amazing as well that people would pay for a digital gun. What is wrong with people? Its really sad.

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    • You don't have to be good at all to get Luna's Howl... It's literally so simple to get that you'd actually be able to afk your way to fabled. Most newbies got the gun legit, but those who did get it through a recov are usually too garbage to use the gun. So I don't see why you're complaining about recovs? It's the player who decides the tide of the match, not the guns.

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      • As long as people play PvP, this will happen. Only when Bungie see the numbers drop to an untenable level will they fix it.

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        • Do you need forsaken to play comp?

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          • Simple don’t play pvp in pve game! If you pvp go play a pvp game!

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            • Lol. How do you suppose they prevent people from playing on other player's accounts? There is literally no detection against that. And I dont know how much you actually play of comp, but I'm at around 4500 and I see very minimal issues when I play. (Not to say it doesnt happen)

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              • Look out I had a bungie employee message me last night and said stop writing this stuff on the forums or you can be band!!! I had it out with him for an hour writing back and forth about this sh!t!!!!

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                • The report button it’s useless

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                  • Well written. Dont think anyone at Bungo cares tho, as long as people play. In fact they might remove this post if it starts to get any traction.

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                    • And here I am, entirely average at pvp, but persistent, and solo queued to get my Luna. I did have several suspicious disconnects along the way though that were infuriating

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                      • So what are [i][u]you[/u][/i] going to do about it? Get a team together, take your lumps like everyone else, earn your weapon and move on. That's what you'll do. Stop getting caught up in the drama and play the game you paid for. There will always be cheaters. There will always be more players who are legit. [i][u][b]move on[/b][/u][/i]

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                        • A little dramatic- you’re just upset you aren’t good enough to get the guns.

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                          • 🐮💩You're delusional If you think a significant amount of people are giving out their account credentials for a gun, especially on console.

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                            • Ahhh another one mad they are good enough to obtain the weapons 👍

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                              • - I now know a guy that cares way to much about a computer game. - I now know a guy that needs to stop caring so much about what over people do and start enjoying life.

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                                • i agree with you. Recoveries also screw up matchmaking

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                                • Wow! I’m glad I don’t play PVP. Excellent post.

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                                • Wow! I’m glad I don’t play PVP. Excellent post.

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                                • I can’t even get myself to finish the broadsword quest right now and it’s easy. Just not feeling the crucible anymore, too much heavy ammo and other low skill bullshit. Throw in the fact that random rolls is basically a lie. I get nothing random that’s worth a shit.

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                                • I just want 60 FPS on my Xbox x

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                                • +1. I'm with you. It is absolutely laughable to expect any parity in Destiny PVP these days.

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                                • They sell an account, The buyer purchases Forsaken, Bungie makes money. Anyone spending that much change will probably buy Silver to. Keep fighting the good fight, but I think Cooperate Commander has his hooks too deep in this one.

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                                • $500? [spoiler]I do them for $200[/spoiler]

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                                  • PvE has retained a relatively healthy playercount, but PvP seems to be tanking even in the wake of the game being given out for free on 2 platforms. Cant argue with that tbh.

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