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Edited by Render: 9/30/2015 2:24:17 PM
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Titans: Nerf, buff, or fix?

There has been a widespread of confusion about my previous post "[u]Titans: Power of favoritism[/u]" The post was originally meant to show the community what was "OP and what wasn't. In my opinion and logically speaking all of the sub-classes were at one point equal. This time period was during the BETA and the launch of Destiny. Some people (myself included) confused bugs with "OPness" Why is it when we bring up Titans the public goes into a frenzy and the one who opposes Titan's is labeled a heretic, a butt-hurt, an illogical troll, who knows nothing about the game? Me and a fellow Titan were discussing on my previous post about the nerf of a Titan. He read the part in which a Nighstalker can hit a Titan and a Titan can escape the tether with his super still intact. He says it sometimes happened to him before. He would get hit by a shadowshot, it would cancel his super sometimes but not all the time, shortly after he would have his super again. We just stated it was a bug instead and not some weird "favoritism" Stormtrancers are considered OP according to almost every Titan in the comments below or almost all. I personally love Warlocks and Hunters but I do admit Warlocks Stormtrance can be seen as OP. We discussed the shadowshot, Nightstalkers. Nightstalkers super is a super that traps an opponent and leaves them rendered of their abilities. I compared this super attribute to that of a Titan's suppression grenade. A Titan's suppression grenade renders that opponent of his super and attributes even the ability to Double jump, Glide, and Lift, but it does not give a damage boost. (That's what weapons of light is for :D ) I'm aware of the differences between that. In my post, I just simply compared the classes together to show the equality and the indifferences, but yet I'm wrong? Because everyone in the community that are Titans are obviously smarter than me and try to use logic in their defense, let's talk logically. In Destiny we have three classes a Warlock, Hunter, and Titan. Each character possess their own set of unique abilities that gives them an advantage (Whether you like it or not, it's true.). With this being said, during the launch of the game for the first month and a half, all you saw across the forums was the OPness of Hunters. "Hunters need to be nerfed!" Hunters eventually received a nerf. Continuing forward, Warlocks were the next targets, Hunters called Warlocks OP because of their ranged Melee attacks and Titans OP because of their shoulder charge ability. Hunters use an up-close knife melee attack, unless you're a gunslinger and you use throwing knife which has little to no aim assist. Warlocks got nerfed slightly but not significantly, the shields warlocks received when activating supers or meleeing people was slightly reduced. Now there's Titans, everyone is complaining but nothing is happening. We said, we'll talk logically for a second, so stay with me. When I explained the key points that everyone in the community were making about Titans being OP, the reply statement was "Because they're Titans and it's significant to Titans. It's apart of their ability, that's why they shouldn't get nerfed." Well if you guys feel that way, then why is it that every class has gone through a nerf for the sake of Titans, Hunters, and Warlocks sake except the TITAN himself/herself? If one class loses power, it just empowers the other. It's how reality operates. If Bungie was to constantly fix everyone's problem and nerf one item or class and not the other, the other items or class become empowered. Look at the weapons you all use today, which weapons were OP? What weapons did you stop using personally because of the fact it's no longer considered good because it got nerfed? Notice how a legendary can destroy an exotic? I mean this is just logic, not anything else. Just think about it. I'm not against Titans and I'm not saying they need a drastic nerf. I'm just saying fix Hammer of Sol, it's broken because of the Hammer spam glitch and the massive health resistance. They have a lot of health resistance along with an ability that allows them to regenerate health after a hammer kill.

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  • Definite nerf!! Titan suckers will cry later when it does. It's only a matter of time. Enjoy it while it lasts.

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    • I don't think anything needs to be nerfed, buffed or fixed. I have fun playing crucible the way it is, sometimes you win sometimes you lose!

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    • These classes need checks and balances god damnit!!! Lmao

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    • There's no such thing as "OP". That's a term made up by whiney azzed little crucibabies that just can't stand to die in a game. Nuff said.

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      • Seriously close tour mouth all Pussy m'y god!

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      • Tl:dr I play bubble boy 90% of the time, and then the last 10% is usually striker in pvp for shoulder charge

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      • Let's say my power is 100 and your power is 50. I get nerfed to 50. Does that mean you should get nerfed to 0. No it doesn't. If all the classes didn't start out on an equal plane, then if you nerf them all the same, it'll still be the same as how it started. Just because one class gets nerfed doesn't mean every other class should get nerf. You get nerfed when you're op. What made Titans op was the glitch where you could spam hammers, which just got fixed. When you say a class should get nerfed. Say why. Say details. Explain what about that class is op and give a reason why it's op. Saying I got killed by it, isn't a valid reason. So if you think Titans should be nerfed, tell me why.

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      • Erm I got 2 shotted by a sword so yeah has good dam res doesn't it

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      • Ok i am going to try and keep this as civil as possible... You keep saying that the sunbreakers are OP and needs to be nerfed, but you provide no tangible evidence that this is a fact.. The fact of the matter is that there are 3 classes in the game, all three have 3 subclasses..so one could argue that there are actually 9 classes in the game.. In writing moment, the HoS got fixed. I am glad at that..because 20 hammers pr. super is just silly. But over to the point. Each class has a spesific ROLE to play in the game world. The NS is a suport/supress class..it is meant to supress and give an advantage to its team mates...yes this covers pvp as well. The NS super is not meant to mainly kill on a use. It is meant to supress abilities and debuff your enemy..making it much easier to kill those said enemies.. The SB is a natural powerhouse! It is meant to be able to withstand massive amounts of dmg, while dealing out big numbers..but this makes the slow, and an easiy target...they just light up like a beacon..making pretty much every enemy aware of where they are...and that is the role of the tank! The warlocks SC is a bit tricky...it could be considered a pure dps class..but some would argue that it is part dps part support...and that is because of the slowing effect of the lightning... Now over to how this all works together..in pure game terms it is refered to as the trinity. Each class performs good or decent on its own...but together with the other 2, they become pretty much unstoppable... The new classes are the way they are supposed to be.... Except the HoS spam bug, which got fixed today. And as for the NS not being able to supress and remove the super of a titan and a warlock..it is a well known bug... The NS is supposed to do that. And the opposing players does loose all his super energy on that.

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        • Do actually still think Nerfs are based on posts in this forum?

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        • Buff

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        • Nerf

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        • This post is the literary version of an STD

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        • Bump I love warlock super in mayhem but only thing i see a little OP with Titan super is amount of armor and massive regen on kill I could care less that its a range and can be used more then gunslinger it's not as accurate which should balance that out

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          • Edited by Tagonyst: 9/30/2015 12:00:22 PM
            I'm just going to leave this here to show that the OP is full of shit: http://destinytracker.com/destiny/population Those are up to date stats. Nightstalkers get double the super and grenade kills per average use than sunbreakers do. You can argue all that you want, but this is a fact. Numbers don't lie. Before someone says "ZOMG hunters outnumber Titans so obviously they get moar kills fgt!" Learn what "[i]per average use[/i]" means. Also, the population stats are given in that link. Hunters only out number Titans by 1.9%. Edit: if you're a fan of logic, bump all day.

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            • I thought they mentioned somewhere that stuff can become op because it LOOKS op. Like the graphics and animations. Sunbreaker definately LOOKS op with all the crazy carnage. But they also mentioned that people feel weapons are stronger based off of the sounds they make, etc. They can leave the stats of something the same, make the animation flashier and then people think it is better. There can be some tweaking to sunbreaker, sure, but most of the op is just flash, not actual stats.

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              • No way in hell I am reading that short story. I'm going to assume he is just another crying hunter.

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                • I'm sorry. I usually believe in reading everything and not commenting like a jerk without giving the post a chance but I had to stop reading after "All Titian subclasses are OP". Just no man. I can believe anything after that. I feel like a jerk but seriously, maybe that was a joke and I should have kept reading but I just couldn't.

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                  • Definite buff :)

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                  • Eat a snickers devil. You become a bitch when you are hungry.

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                    • Edited by covert29: 9/30/2015 2:04:36 PM
                      Holy crying baby BATMAN!!! Even if I ever was that much butthurt, I'd never write such a long and nonsensical rant as this. May the odds be never in your favor and let the hammer of a thousand titans find your cry baby ass for all time. It is spoken, so let it be so.

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                      • Shoulder charge does not take time to regenerate - no Their bubble just lasts forever - no. Titans receive unlimited hammers - no. They can even do a cheat - no. A Titan takes literally no damage from a shadowshot - no. Titans can just throw that grenade at you and it's a instant kill - no. They just chuck them in the general direction and it's a guarantee stick - no. Titans not at all present in [url=http://destinytracker.com/destiny/leaderboards/xbox/kd?grouped=true&page=1&month=2015-9-01]this month's Top 10 PvP[/url]. There is only one character who can survive a direct shoulder-charge / six head-shots from Red Death / direct hit from a Bladedancer Flux Grenade / even a straight on head-shot from a LDR-5001.... [url=http://planetdestiny.com/does-armor-matter-pvp/]and it's not any kind of titan[/url]. But most of all : There are an enormous [url=http://destinytracker.com/destiny/population]37% more PVP kills[/url] by Nightstalker supers than Sunbreaker supers. Whereas between Sunbreakers and Stormcallers there is only a 13% variance.

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                        • See I read fully maxed blade dancer runs slower than a titan and I laughed then stopped reading

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                        • Edited by Caboose: 9/30/2015 2:16:38 PM
                          The f[b]a[/b]ggotry in this post is astounding.

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                        • Too long. Didn't read. Is he butthurt or non-butthurt?

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                          • Eris Morn: It was the Titans, all along, it was the Titans. The class we held the closest and trusted the most Ikora: Was truly only our enemy, they empowered themselves while driving us into a pit Eris: Hunters and Warlocks, we must unite, destroy this blight that has weakened us under our nose [spoiler]This was the best explanation Ive ever read its not Butthurt at all[/spoiler]

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