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Edited by nickck: 7/20/2015 3:56:03 PM
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will bungie reverse the 2.0 updates

Seems like many people do not like this update. So will bungie change or reverse the update. My guess is no since they never listen Edit: I think thorn nerf was good but rly guys the update has some major flaws like nerfing fusion rifles again and nerfing icebreaker, Gally and blackhammer. You say they listened but no one asked for those nerfs.
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  • how do you reverse an update that technically doesnt exist yet

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  • No

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  • I think we could all agree that we'd rather small needed changes then wait for a giant Mega update that will obviously lead to new op weapons

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      • I guarantee the guy nerfing [b][i]The Ice Breaker[/i][/b] hasn't held one as many hours as I have. Hasn't turned to it as to a trusted friend in times of stress, only to have it save my life - and raid experience. Too many hours staring at charts and graphics don't compare to a 3 character career. So they're cutting the legs off my best friend will I feel the loss? You bet. And The last Word, seriously? As soon as there's anything good in the game Bungie suck the fun out of it. Oh yeah, the Taken King will be a blast all right - until the inevitable nerfs come calling. What's the point building up a new gun collection only to have the rug pulled from beneath your feet again a few months down the line. If something is awesome you can be sure it won't be staying that way. No I'm not buying the DLC, I judge them on their track record and learn from the past. They've had two good chances, if I let them fool me again - then the only real fool - is me. 10 November Fallout 4 arrives, and I can't wait to explore a true next generation open world hostile environment. Where you can build your own settlement and collect parts to craft and upgrade your own unique guns and scopes. And my new best friend? A dog who'll explore with me, fight beside me and obviously fetch stuff. Sounds like a better way to spend some cash and I'm in the UK, so it comes for about the same price as TTK dlc. There's just no comparison. I don't hate Destiny, and I will check reviews for Destiny 2 when it's out, but for PS4 and XBone owners I think this game is done. It plays on last gen consoles for a start - Why do you think I'll buy it Bungie - for the price you're asking? It's a slap in the face with a bag of nerfs rubbed in. For those of you determined to stick around there's a glimmer of hope, with barely half the traffic, there'll be much less lag, [b]just don't trip over the tumbleweed while you're on patrol.[/b]

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        • Edited by YourMumWasFuN: 7/21/2015 9:11:35 AM
          Oh look a boss let's just use the ice breaker up on that ledge BORING Oh look a boss,OK everyone fire your gally then pop a ammo synthesis BORING Alight m8 you wanna play trials,yes one min just let me get my thorn,lastword and final round sniper BORING and SCRUBY

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          • Not possible the statistics aren't there to show then what to change.

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          • No they are not going to change anything based on people's opinion of the changes and not their experience with it.

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          • Nope, they too invested in it now

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          • #SAVEGJALLARHORN

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            • Edited by dogsheet_player: 7/21/2015 12:16:59 PM
              There was only one nerf, and that was to fusions. The rest were in the name of balance. We've all asked for these, some more than others. It is a much needed update.

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              • If they want my $40 they will have to

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                • For black hammer yes, give back white nail 3x crit shots...but they will lower its damage output.

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                • People asked for thorn, TLW, gjallahorn nerfs. But never seen black hammer and icebreaker complaint.

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                  • I hope not.

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                  • We asked for more balance and that's what the update intends to do. I think bungie could soften the blow on the nerf of ghorn by making the enemies less bullet spongy but even if they did that they would still need to nerf the damage a little. It's too good. You saw that chart. No other heavy even comes close. Buffing them wouldn't be a smart move because it will just lower the time to kill and make all content feel shorter. Plus if you really think about it there is nothing wrong with the other heavies. They get the job done too but ghorn is so obviously more powerful it makes no sense to use anything else most of the time. The logically thing is to bring down the damage. But even with this nerf I bet ghorn will be the most powerful heavy in the game. It just won't be so powerful that you won't even consider using other weapons.

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                  • Well considering about 5% of the community actually use these forums. I wouldn't say everyone is against this patch based on these boards. I for one am 100% for it.

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                  • Just because no one asked for the nerfs doesn't mean they weren't necessary. The reason black hammer, ib, and gally are being nerfed is becauae they have become a PvE meta which should never happen in a loot based game.

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                    • I don't think they will, especially the pve changes to ib, bh and gjally. The weapon class changes may get tweaked a bit over the next 7-8 weeks but I don't think it will be much.

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                    • I don't think they will ... Why would you play a game for 10 years using the same guns? The other thing is the weapons needed to be re-adjusted. They really did and be honest here. One thing, bungie created this mess, and are trying to fix it. A good example is gjallarhorn, they removed it from Xurs loot table and created this sense of importance that made everyone who did not own one, OBSOLETE. And then they nerf it .... Good job (sarcasm)

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                    • Bungie is doing the right thing. And there will likely be some adjustments after 2.0 as they will likely over adjust something's and over adjust others.

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                      • They won't reverse them, but that doesn't mean they won't revise them. We just have to wait and see.

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                      • Just because "no one" asked for certain nerfs doesn't mean they aren't necessary. Would be kinda silly to nerf things that are annoying and not nerf things that are straight OP, but convenient ;-) Icebreaker is bullshit, but the rest? Justified, in my opinion. And why the fusion rifle nerf? Well, once the shotguns are nerfed they don't want everyone to go to fusion rifles. They need to be on a similar level but with different purposes, not one being dominant once again. Therefore the f rifle adjustment ..

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                        • Did they listen when the news broke about HoW shipping without a raid? There's your answer.

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                          • Edited by StiviX: 7/20/2015 6:40:22 PM
                            [quote]When we hit Fusion Rifle accuracy in the last update, we saw a lot of players move to Shotguns as their close range weapon of choice. For this update, we have preserved our original intent to reduce overall range, [b]but have scaled back the nerf on close range Fusion Rifles[/b] to help them contend with Shotguns in close quarters.[/quote] [quote][b]Gjallarhorn was so strong that for many people it had become the only answer to getting through tough encounters[/b], and therefore they were less willing to spend time with other players that didn’t have it. [/quote] [quote]While technically not an exotic...Currently[b] it is the only Sniper Rifle that is more capable of ending a PvE boss faster than Ice Breaker.[/b][/quote]

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                          • Bungie has a shit-ton of data that they sorted through. The community at large has nowhere near it. Bungie is making the right decision. When you get older, you'll realize that sometimes the things you want aren't the things you need, and you'll realize that sometimes when you disagreed with the adults in your life (parents, teachers, etc.) you'll realize that they were right and you were wrong. And why does nobody ever talk about the amount of buffing that this update's gonna bring?

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