[b]EDIT:[/b] Since people are clearly not reading the entire thread, I have removed the portion from this thread that is generating some completely asinine responses by some individuals. If there is any further negativity against this thread for completely idiotic reasons, I will report your post to the moderators and mute you.
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Bungie, I've just about reached my breaking point here with your game, and I'm highly considering leaving after yet another failure in your game that you are refusing to acknowledge.
Personally, I know what to expect here. You'll ignore me for probably close to the thirtieth time now, and then there will be others of you who will come in here jumping to Bungie's defense on the manner. But frankly, I've had enough of this bull and honestly if you ignore me here, then my point to be made here will be completely justified.
The problem here lies in your so called "smart-loot" system which was apparently added to the game with the release of DLC1. In a past interview, it was stated that this loot system would: [i][u]Keep track of rewards you've earned, versus rewards you haven't earned to [b]highly favor[/b] rewards that were not earned.[/u][/i] Why then, after completing Hard Mode for the 11th time, do I have six repeat gun drops, four repeat armor drops, and shards/energy like no tomorrow. I haven't even received the CoC or the Sparrow, and yet it sure seems like all of my teammates are basking in the rewards. In my final run this week, all five of my teammates got the CoC, and I got repeats with the exception of one new item this week.
The answer is simple, your reward system is bugged. I even have a friend who has received the full brunt of this bug with the Vault of Glass, receiving over 15 [b]The Last Word[/b] drops from Atheon on his runs (I swear he has a 100% drop rate of this gun). And this bug only is worsened by the Raid's lockout system which only gives you one shot a week to get a drop. When it's impossible to track down the source of the bug or to pull out of a game when bugged, it only furthers the aggravation at the game. So, why am I writing this post?
The problem is you're taking out the most important part of the development cycle, the human aspect of it with your robotic feedback. "Thanks for your feedback, we're listening" is nothing more than a slap to the face of all of your loyal fans who honestly want to help you to make this game better. I WANT to help you make your game better, and yet I haven't even been recognized once for any of my efforts in my posts here. All I've ever gotten from anyone here is nothing but complete disrespect and heat, and that was for posts I've made coming to your defense. You then finally come around and make posts asking for our help, and guess what, I get absolutely nothing from you in return.
"Thanks for your feedback" isn't good enough anymore. You need to get your act together and actually come in and acknowledge the problems in your game. Don't give us the "We'll look into it" and then never post again either. If you look into a problem, at least get back to the thread and inform them of your findings.
I have a programming background, I understand that the game's reward system, like the heavy ammo glitch is deep in the codebase, and that fixing the problem will likely take a while. So if you can't fix the core problem for some time, why not at least help the players to make it better? Here's [url=https://www.bungie.net/en/Forum/Post/98573175]another one of my ideas[/url] on how you can resolve this problem for the short run while the bigger problem is fixed.
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1 ReplyReport me oooooh nooooooo
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2 RepliesSo you're quitting because you didn't get the crux? You little boy need to grow a pair
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So they lied, again. Actually not a big surprise though. Should`ve seen that coming.
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4 RepliesNo defense of bungie. But i hope more players like you leave. You dont deserve the crux just because youve cleared a couple weeks of raiding. I hope your sense of entitlement doesnnot carry over to your real life. You may have a very hard tike after you are middle aged, or maybe earlier if tshtf.
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19 RepliesThe actual 'babies' and 'whiners' on this thread are the people having tantrums and complaining about your post, Phantom. Anything that calls Bungie to account upsets them so very much they scream and scream and scream until they're sick. Here's the thing, just like I've literally posted about 10mins ago in another thread, I suspect that the RNG system is not truly random and it is smart - just not in a way that benefits the player. This whole thing is designed to do one thing: slow...you...down. That's it. This is why they can fix complex exploits/cheese with a snap of their fingers but when it comes to anything that might help you out, not so much. Otherwise you'd burn the lacklustre content and be done with it in a couple of days. So please ignore these pointless, willing victims who will blart at you on here - that is, people who are too thick to realise they are being conned/seduced into developing a gambling addiction in a game that doesn't even play fair. You have cited Bungie's own statement about RNG in concern of the raid in your post, so preach on, mate. Other people are listening, nodding in agreement and waiting to see that company eventually answer for the lies they've told and the mess they've made. (now watch the 'if you don't like the game why are you on here?' posts come at me *sigh* - as they're also too thick to realise I'm here due to a little known thing called 'consumer right of complaint')
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1 ReplyShut up, quit and leave. Good bye.
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I think the issue is RNGs and I completely understand your point. It sucks but what can we do it is what it is. That's why I only do Crota's on hard once a week so I don't burn out. I've deleted my other 2 Characters and created a duplicates so I can have 2 extra chance on armors and frankly if they keep it up on future DLCs I'll just continue on doing so. Believe me when I say I feel your pain.
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2 RepliesEveryone who keeps saying that he's being whiney and bitching about not getting what he wants need to stfu. You people are to stupid to realize that what he's actually complaining about is the fact that Bungie, who I have been a fan of for a long time, isn't listening to its loyal fans. The programmers are ignoring half of the problems with the game. He's not getting the crux because of the overlooked issues and that's what truly upsets him. He isn't the only one complaining about this legit issues that require attention. Bungie needs to fix some of these problems before they lose a large portion of their fan base.
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This game loot system is a mess and maddening, except it and embrace the infuriating thing it is or move on.
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You sound like a twunt.
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If having a bad week for raids is enough to make you quit then you were planning on leaving anyway. I killed Crota last week and only got energies. Nothing else, no weapons, no armor, just energy. And yet I'm still here and fine with it.
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9 RepliesHoly shit I've seen some whiney posts, but this one takes the cake... Boo hoo. You got 3 raid primaries.
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9 RepliesThere is no way I could be arsed to read all that shit. Can you put it into a sentence please?
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2 RepliesWay too long, although I have a similar issue w drops. With that said, the whole "I single handedly" thing is pretty annoying to read, even if you were a top person in the group.
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And you come across as pretty full of yourself....pat yourself on the back a little less and you will be rewarded so sayeth the book of RNGesus.
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1 ReplyIt all comes back to Bungie's lazy and punitive loot delivery system. Rather than creating actual goals/tasks for the player to work toward and complete to [i]earn[/i] gear, they simply made everything completely random. There is nothing revolutionary about Destiny. It's a hamster wheel.
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You've got to stop wanting it. And sacrifice four old chickens go good measure.
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I've opened up a new thread with a suggestion on how to fix this problem. I would really appreciate it if you would give it some support and comment on your thoughts: https://www.bungie.net/en/Forum/Post/98573175
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1 ReplyEdited by Kavod556: 2/4/2015 5:19:20 PMI've only been getting shards and energies along with armor drops with zero weapons in my last few CE runs. All I want is a Gjally and nothing else but I feel your pain and disappointment.
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2 RepliesI hope you find your happy place...it's not in this game that's for sure. You got caught up in it all.you complain they don't listen to you. Most large company's don't react to individual customers. They use focus groups and market research to make there business plans and roadmaps. Unfortunatly you need to step back and re asses your attitude to,what at the end of the day,is a passing form of casual entertainment. Best of luck.
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Why are you still playing this pos? Really!
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The only winning move is not to play.
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Edited by Tezztor: 2/4/2015 5:38:51 AMI'd more then happily concede my first dropping of the crux to you if it meant you'd actually get it. However like anything else in destiny it seems we gotta sit by and watch others get what we want so badly, due to rng. I personally want the Hawkmoon. All my friends have it and today alone two have gotten in in nightfalls/raid. Some are sharding it at this point. I've wanted it since the game came out. No matter how many nightfalls, raids and whatever else I do it never drops for me. Very aggravating to say the least. Xur will never sell it so I can't even have that hope.
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1 ReplySimilar thing happened to me Bro...so I feel your pain Beaten crota 9 times now and seen everyone else get it, although I wasn't as heroic in my plight as u Then to add insult to injury..9 ascendant shards for the nightfall Takes the piss
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Wo! You wrote book. I got sharded all day also. A fang of ir yut at the end after third Crota complete. Try your luck at nightfall? I got hard light and a universal remote!
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2 RepliesDoubt everybody got the crux except you. I'm not on bungies side but everybody has been in your position and they grind and keep grinding for their weapons or materials or whatever else they need the crux is the most rare item in the game it's going to be hell to get it. Also would like to see some proof how 5 people 5 PEOPLE got the crux