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9/17/2014 2:48:54 PM
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Destiny PvP sucks, and it's not fixable.

I found this post, and I feel it describes what I feel about the PvP. Opinions? ----------- It sucks, and it's not fixable. Here's the problem in a nutshell: [b]everything kills you instantly[/b] I'll go ahead and emphasize and elaborate on that: [b]everything kills you instantly with no skill required and no way to avoid being killed instantly other than staying put in a far corner of the map[/b] I'm not just referring to Destiny's COD-ish time-to-kill. That's not necessarily a problem in itself, since the normal Destiny combat (strafing, shooting, jumping, etc) is pretty fun. The issue is there are like 8 things that can kill you instantly, and that other players either (a) spawn with, or (b) acquire over time as "supers". -Everyone can spawn with a rocket launcher, and ammo is plentiful -Everyone can spawn with a sniper rifle, and ammo is plentiful -There is this god-awful vehicle called "the interceptor." Imagine a Revenant from Halo: Reach, but with the Banshee's fuel rod cannon. The driver can conceivably be shot out from the side, but in most cases the driver sees you and you die shortly after -Warlocks have the "soo cool! xD" Nova Bomb which is basically just another rocket launcher -Titans have a super where they slam the ground and kill everyone nearby instantly. Combine this with Destiny's sprinting and sliding mechanics and your paraplegic grandma can manage a 0.8 k/d ratio -Hunters have the Golden Gun super, which is a one-shot kill as long as it hits anywhere around (doesn't have to be on) the body, from any range. And you get three bullets. And this is what I mean by "it can't be fixed." There is a definite pattern here, and it lays bare Bungie's design philosophy w/r/t PvP. By giving people "Press X to Kill Everyone" supers that they charge just by being in the game, you're giving bad players the ability to have "whoa so cool!" moments that keep them engaged and coming back. This is not a matter of Bungie having the damage dials slightly off, a la the beta nades in Halo: Reach. [b]This is a conscious, intentional design choice[/b]. You are going to die instantly 11 times a game because the people killing you need those kills more than you need to have a fighting chance at not-dying. To say that Destiny's PvP can be fixed in this regard is like saying Halo can be fixed by relying less on "aiming at something and pressing a button." It's ingrained in the fabric of the game. It's not going away. Source: http://destiny.bungie.org/forum/index.php?id=23735
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  • Your profile says you've never played it before...

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    • Edited by SlashmasterLJ: 9/17/2014 9:54:56 PM
      fixable* Just need to make biggers maps which will lower shotguns power, change radius's of certain abiltys make certain abiltys more and less powerful as bungie sees fit. Its not hard to fix. Sure shotguns are M1 + W right now but it can be fixed. Making oneshots hard to atain *shortening titan's fist of havoc radius as well as Void bomb* *Making a cooldown time on archblades slashes so he cannot use it to fly nor gain distance quick, also making it so arch blade doesnt auto lock.*

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    • Edited by ThaBootyBandit: 9/17/2014 9:48:58 PM
      [quote]I found this post, and I feel it describes what I feel about the PvP. Opinions? ----------- It sucks, and it's not fixable. Here's the problem in a nutshell: everything kills you instantly I'll go ahead and emphasize and elaborate on that: everything kills you instantly with no skill required and no way to avoid being killed instantly other than staying put in a far corner of the map I'm not just referring to Destiny's COD-ish time-to-kill. That's not necessarily a problem in itself, since the normal Destiny combat (strafing, shooting, jumping, etc) is pretty fun. The issue is there are like 8 things that can kill you instantly, and that other players either (a) spawn with, or (b) acquire over time as "supers". -Everyone can spawn with a rocket launcher, and ammo is plentiful [b]I dont recall being able to spawn with heavy ammo. "Heavy Ammo Inbound" ever heard that before?[/b] -Everyone can spawn with a sniper rifle, and ammo is plentiful -There is this god-awful vehicle called "the interceptor." Imagine a Revenant from Halo: Reach, but with the Banshee's fuel rod cannon. The driver can conceivably be shot out from the side, but in most cases the driver sees you and you die shortly after [b]thats why the maps with this vehicle all have stationary turrents that literally shread them.[/b] -Warlocks have the "soo cool! xD" Nova Bomb which is basically just another rocket launcher [b]Blink. Or Kill them midcast. Hardly ever get killed by this one. So predictable lol.[/b] -Titans have a super where they slam the ground and kill everyone nearby instantly. [b]Blink.[/b] Combine this with Destiny's sprinting and sliding mechanics and your paraplegic grandma can manage a 0.8 k/d ratio [b]sooo explain how being a paraplegic is relevant to destiny pvp.[/b] -Hunters have the Golden Gun super, which is a one-shot kill as long as it hits anywhere around (doesn't have to be on) the body, from any range. And you get three bullets. [b]you can easily kill a hunter using his golden gun. And if you dont think you can kill him just take cover. The only time i get killed by a golden gun is when they surprise me.[/b] Source: http://destiny.bungie.org/forum/index.php?id=23735[/quote] Replies in bold. This whole rant is ridiculous. The only weapons that are NOT skill based that you have ammo and spawn with are autorifles and shotguns.

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    • Edited by Hate Mailer: 9/17/2014 9:25:41 PM
      If anything the presence of more ways to be insta-killed requires me to plan better and be more strategic when I pick encounters. It requires me to be frugal with my aggression, but ready to bolt at a moment's notice if I have an inkling that someone has their super.

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    • Supers are supposed to be a one shot kill. Thats's why their called supers

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    • There's talk of adding a playlist with no supers, and no heavies. Wouldn't that help?

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      • When did videogames become less about having fun and more about who is better? Supers are fun, use them. Everyone deserves to have a good time, your stats in this lil game dont mean a god damn thing

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        • I think it's fair, honestly. I want the special weapons to have less starting ammo to prevent spam, but the specials are fine because everyone has them and they aren't spamable. The rocket launcher is not at all plentiful in ammo, though. 4 total containers per game. 2 shots in each.

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        • Did you ever think maybe you just suck at this game??? Think about it...if you were doing the killing you wouldn't be here crying right now...instead of crying the game sucks, why don't you get better or play something else.

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          • You state it's not fixable, then note it's this way by design, and thus isn't broken to be fixed. I agree. Destiny PvP is not fixable...because it's not broken. It is how it is deliberately and by design. Can't fix something that isn't broken; you can change, modify, adjust, tweak, optimize, etc., but you can't fix.

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            • They need a ranking system

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              I agree with u , the PvP is annoying I currently have a 2.40 kdr with these things removed o could have a 4 its very irritating when garbage players kill me

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            • Some classes are better than others. There's definitely player benefits in the PvP. I was pretty terrible at first. Strategize.

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            • Too much text. Did not read. But hey I do fine in pvp. 1.62 kd overall in Clash and lead 3/4 games. No idea why everyone is complaining.

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