Nerfing shotguns in PvE? Really? Way to make my guardian feel MORE powerful🤣. Seriously, you guys don't listen to any good suggestions by the community at all unless it's a tuber or streamer that does nothing at all but play your game. What's the point in creating a slew of weapons even if they are reskins when only a handful of them will be used anyway. Just give us the 5 guns that will be relevant next season and call it a day. Or...wait for it...properly tune all weapons to be realistically viable more often than not. Explosion in my head!!! Ffs!!!

“Alright, alright, alri.... hey! Where did everyone go?!” - Drifter (2 weeks after the next DLC is released.)

How many new PvP Quickplay maps are we getting with Joker’s Wild? All I’m asking for is more 6v6 Crucible maps and more strikes!

So you dont like the fact that people are using full auto shotguns, so you nerf them rather than buff others. You still have time to change your mind.

I played three Gambit matches now, and I think I want to add few thoughts I forgot to mention previously. Are you going to keep matchmaking bunch of solo players against organized fireteams? Are you going to buff most supers in terms equalizing their damage dealt to Primeval? Currently at least one warlock with Chaos Reach greatly speeds up melting Primeval, and having organized fireteam with two greatly improves that, leaving little-to-no chances to their opponents to keep up. Given invasion mechanics in primeval phase, it leaves almost no chances to random players. Are you going to fix Titan (especially Sentinel) hit registration? As of now, attacks sometimes do not register properly and it is possible to miss an attack simply passing through primeval, including during "third one", which you buffed. Are you going to do something with that flewing fewk? Like, I don't know, force it to fly lower? How the hell I'm suppose to hit it if I'm melee Titan? This is not ArmA3, I don't have portable ladder to climb it up and keep things up close and personal. And given how little heavy ammo you drop, what options do I have against it? It's not Warhammer 40000, I can't fix bayonet and CHAAARGE in the name of the Emperor. Are you going to fix special and particularly heavy ammo drops, because for three today's matches I played, I killed my average 20+ mobs per round, and in fact, in two matches I killed 30+ mobs per round. Do you know how many heavy ammo pouches I got? One. Not in each round, no, for six of them. How the hell I am supposed to damage primeval, given that it may be flying and I can't swap my super on the fly without losing all accumulated energy?

You really dont have anything exciting in store at all for next season, do you

nothing in your latest offering is anything that makes me want to play this game or adds to the endgame. Only thing you seem able to do is create boring, repetitive content with no endgame longevity such as crucible and trials. Not sure what you did to crucible but it is getting toxic as can be.

What's the complaints about shotguns for? They got a real buff in PvE.

The only people who are complaing are those who play PvP to damn much. Actually read the update instead of going bat shit insane for no reason. There not going to a dress most of the stuff that people complain about because they are going off of what youtubers want. So unless you got a some odd million people behind you bungie don't care.

2 things 1) Theres a bug where an active weapon ability on a primary (IE Memento Mori) blocks the activation of Backup Plan on fusion rifles when you switch to them. Please fix that, its minor but could prove fatal especially in crucible 2) When it comes to the nerf of shotgun ranges in the season of the drifter, does that include chaperone?

I just ran up against a 6 stack of Lunas in IB. Needless to say how it ended. So....you can attempt to nerf shotguns, but feel that Lunas are completely balanced?? GTFOH! All the work put into obtaining it, its understandable, I get it. For all the defenders of Luna, YES I know you "earned your gun"...blah blah blah. But if this is true, isn't this the same case with shotguns? Or any other weapons? That we ALL have access to? The key word here is "all". If we can all get the same guns, and use said guns, why are we nerfing every damn little thing? Isn't it a skill thing at this point? If I get bested by a Luna, all i say to myself is "damn I need to work to get that gun". I don't cry that it needs to be nerfed. Leave the damn guns alone! Whatever gun you use the most, practice and get better with it. Activision saw a sinking ship, and abandoned it. It doesn't seem like they were the issue.

You didn’t say anything about D2 changing to 3rd person!!! https://www.bungie.net/en/Forum/Post/251102447/0/0

There’s no need to nerf shotguns, just buff smgs, side arms and snipers - lesser flinch to counter it, come up with a 3v3 game mode in crucible lab and see how the community respond. Pvp maps!.. just bring back those old maps!.. give the community what we like to play...

On PC, the Crucible is UNPLAYABLE without frustration. You said you were going to fix Titan skating in OCTOBER. I have never seen a terd left in the toilet this long EVER in the gaming community. A SEASON PASS IS A SUBSCRIPTION. That means we are paying you to fix stupid shit like this.

Gambit Changes Third round change, oh boy. So are we still manipulating matches to be 3 rounds unless it's a complete stomp or...? Invader spawn changes. Sure, why not. Idle protection, was this not already a thing? Or is it going to be more strict, ie must kill a certain amount of enemies or collect a certain amount of motes? Triumph change, sure, why not. Blocker types, yeehaw, let's get some shield chains and captain blight spam. No thanks. Triple infamy, sure, why not. Linear Nerf. Whatever. Yet another nerf. Can't care anymore. Ooh... 10% buff, yippee-f'n-skippee. Shotguns. What even... Damage wasn't the issue. The inherent risk of using a shotty other than a full auto for boss DPS was the issue. The shotguns are slow, and risky. A damage buff is always welcome, but not when you hamstring another archetype (you know, the one archetype people actually use, is the pinnacle reward for an entire activity group, and is a highly coveted reward from your newest raid). The RPM values aren't going to improve their effectiveness in PvE. Also, can we just lol for a minute that you are inherently nerfing all shotguns damage, so you can buff shotgun damage, while nerfing our ammo capacity? That's some class A bait and switch BS right there. Range in PvP. Where's the numbers? Shotties can be inconsistent at anything greater than 7 meters, and a god roll kills inconsistently at what... 9? So what are we talking here, a meter less? Two? Do you want us to be hugging our opponent to get a kill? I don't even like using shottie in PvP, but if and when I do use them, I don't want to be touching my opponent to get a kill. It's still a gun, amirite? And of all the times I've been killed by a shotgun, it's never a range issue. Even at the longest of ranges, I'm usually already weak when they pop me, or it's a 100% god roll with all range bonuses and percs procced. We need things to combat shotguns, not shotgun nerfs! Where's my SMG buff? OEM, whatever. It's only a real issue in comp, on PC, and that's for other reasons. The only thing I can understand or care about is the change to how it procs in supers. It is a tad ridiculous to see someone getting multiple overshields per single super. So... sure why not. Not a problem for me, but maybe it'll keep people from whining too much. Change to the Sturm quest. Can't believe this was an issue for so long. Also, no adjustment for the fact that Exotic engrams are so few and far between? What was once a fairly simple quest is now something (even after the fix) you could potentially just hold on to for weeks if not months? Come on, guys. Honestly the best part about this entire TWAB was the hunter cloak preview "upgrade" that we've been waiting for, for years. Guys... as you said yourselves, we're 12 days from the next season/new content. Are you going to even attempt to get us excited for it? We've seen no teases, no hype vids, no actual content to give a shit about. I know you've stressed elsewhere that it won't just be gambit, but the majority of people either... A). Know but don't care about the drifter so they feel they don't have to come back for this season. B). Don't know, and aren't interested in Gambit so they feel they don't have to come back for this season. Where's the stuff people actually care about? Where's the loot? Where's the new strikes and pvp maps? I know there's no new raid, but any whispers on a dungeon? What about that new multi-man activity? We need details, people are leaving in droves and I'm tired of standing by waiting. Seriously, you've ruined our ability to prep for the next season with the powerful bounty change, there's a good portion of gameplay gone. You're raising the cap for what seems to be no reason. Not giving us any endgame activites to prepare for or grind with. Like... what is going on over there? Sell us on this new content, please, tell us there is new content. Bungie. Please. Stop letting this game wither.

Not buying the September pass as my character will be able to continue to rank up without it. If I had known that I could reach 650 without this current pass I would of saved my money when I got forsaken. The forges were okay to give the extra power boost but are pointless now like everything else. Once you hit max rank there is nothing interesting left to do. I’m certainly not going to grind out dead content for a vanity TITLE or guns just to fill my vault. The community needs fun stuff once the grind to max power is done.