[quote]Look, your just a legend in your own mind. Basically what your saying about destroying in Gambit just means your a toxic player and also have to make insults to try to make your point more valid. Why bring up your so called "skill" in pvp to make a point? Out side of the game maybe your just a lonely person and the only thing you have is video games. So please just stop with the insults towards other players. Makes you look bad and I am sure everyone else who has seen this thinks the same thing.[/quote]Insults towards other players? That guy in the vid ran forward at the titan and sat in mid when there are at least 3 other enemies looking out for him, it was a moronic decision and sleeper in his hands isn't good, in any decent players hands it destroys with ease which is a problem, that has nothing to do with me. Just fact. Your one encounter you and that youtuber tried to showcase was vs a idiotic player pure and simple [quote]Yes the guy in the video does say the sleeper is strong, but you also forgot to mention he said not to nerf it. I see you only take half of what is said and try to use it to make a point again.[/quote]No. I said EVEN he said its strong, so he admits it's too powerful. This is the guy who is trying to defend sleeper, ofc he'll say not to nerf, but if he can even admit it's too strong you know anyone with a balanced point of view will definitely. [quote]If you are able to wipe a whole team while invading, you dont stick around. You get teleported back. Well, that is what happened to me.[/quote]You have 30 seconds. It takes around a second and a half to fire sleeper, 4 times say 15 secs. Respawning takes 5. 10 secs left to wipe them again since they spawn close to each other. A feat no other weapon can do without drawbacks. Example: sniper takes precision hits [quote]Also, the sleeper is an exotic weapon. It should be powerful and shouldn't be on the same level as legendary weapons.[/quote]It also shouldn't make every other weapon irrelevant. [quote]I have never cried for a nerf on a weapon because I get killed by it many times. I see people use it, so I work on getting it and learn to use it. Soon, people are going to say the Ace of Spades is too powerful and it needs a nerf because they keep getting killed by it all the time. So stop and drop it.[/quote]Ace of spades is not a 1hk is it? It's also got range penalties. Hardly op or will get complained about, especially since you're giving up the exotic slot. And it's not about how many times you die to the weapon. It's about if that weapon outclasses all others which in sleepers case does [quote]Bungie isn't going to nerf the power. Just the aim assist. So now it makes it harder if your not good a aiming to get the 1hk.[/quote] Bungie said they'd start with flinch, if it doesn't hurt the guns usage and unparalleled strength as I believe it won't they'll make more adjustments. One of 4 solutions I thought of would have helped but bungie went the wrong way about it as the usually do. 1. Invaders lose heavy 2. Sleeper requires a crit hit to one shot guardians. 3. Boss heals less with heavy kills and more with other weapons. 4. Remove player icons None of which would have hurt sleeper in any other mode.