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All those saying Ghaul is strong and not weak, the traveller fears Oryx and the Hive and others aligned to the darkness. Ghaul wasn't even that. And besides if we hadn't killed him the traveler would have just blown him up anyway.
So what, he got to the traveler and for a brief moment starved us of our light, but let's face it.....
Atheon - Time travelling manipulator of reality
Crota - Son of a Hive God, invincible but for his sword, slaughtered hundreds of guardians. Thousands of years old
Oryx - A God personally gifted power by the Deep. Can only be killed in his own realm. Can take the Will of enemies to fight for him
Aksis - Bio enginered overlord of death and destruction. Can self replicate and change others
Calus - Has a massive planet eating ship. True leader of the Cabal has thousands of other versions of himself.
Skolas - Meanest mofo the galaxy has ever seen. Even the Nine are afraid of him. (Actually hardest boss in Destiny pre nerf).
Ghaul - Pissed off space turtle with a grudge against humanity, has a an army.
Randal the Vandal - Eats gjallarhorns for breakfast and craps over all who dares kill his pet shank.
It's not Canon I know, but really our enemies need to be a bit more threatening.
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2 RepliesPre nerf skolas was easier. Melt him with ghorn in seconds....post nerf u had to actually do the encounter.....
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Edited by Wolfe: 11/3/2017 5:28:58 PMThe difference is ghaul had a plan of attack. Atheon was just staying to himself, crota wasn't at full strength, skolas was a nut job with a small army, oryx was powerful but was blinded by vengeance, and the house of devils was already weak, so aksis was strong, but not strong enough to take the city. Ghaul used the information acquired from the dreadnought to learn how to siphon and block our light, and using that he took the city. While he may not have been the most powerful, he was the most clear headed and strategic, and that's why he bested us in the beginning.
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[quote]Edit: Added Randal All those saying Ghaul is strong and not weak, the traveller fears Oryx and the Hive and others aligned to the darkness. Ghaul wasn't even that. And besides if we hadn't killed him the traveler would have just blown him up anyway. So what, he got to the traveler and for a brief moment starved us of our light, but let's face it..... Atheon - Time travelling manipulator of reality Crota - Son of a Hive God, invincible but for his sword, slaughtered hundreds of guardians. Thousands of years old Oryx - A God personally gifted power by the Deep. Can only be killed in his own realm. Can take the Will of enemies to fight for him Aksis - Bio enginered overlord of death and destruction. Can self replicate and change others Calus - Has a massive planet eating ship. True leader of the Cabal has thousands of other versions of himself. Skolas - Meanest mofo the galaxy has ever seen. Even the Nine are afraid of him. (Actually hardest boss in Destiny pre nerf). The nine are no scared of Skolas, they didn't want him to begin with the queen gave him up to cover her own ass. Ghaul - Pissed off space turtle with a grudge against humanity, has a an army. Randal the Vandal - Eats gjallarhorns for breakfast and craps over all who dares kill his pet shank. It's not Canon I know, but really our enemies need to be a bit more threatening.[/quote]
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Give him some credit, for a splintered faction he came closer to killing every single Guardian then any of the ones you mentioned. Gary deserves respect!
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How much you think Atheon benches?
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Bungie takes this seriously and gives us a reskinned version of Bloodborne with guns that do shit for damage and enemies the size of the tower
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3 RepliesEdited by ChiefDevilEggs: 11/3/2017 4:10:26 PMI really think it's about time we get a new race. Like a race of "corrupted" or "evil" guardians, or at least something a bit more humanoid that represents a threat the likes of which we haven't seen yet, instead of all these reskinned enemies...
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2 RepliesI never had any trouble with Skolas, I'm not sure why so many people in the comments are saying that they did.
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Even Randal the Vandal was stronger
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Edited by Qeylis: 11/3/2017 6:01:45 PMBut, Gary became legend... Gary wasn't a very good bad guy, but he stole the light of every guardian (for like, ten minutes, until one of them got it back). Then, he figured out a way to use the light himself. Think about it. You said Skolas was the meanest mofo the galaxy has ever seen. Well, who has two thumbs and killed Skolas? (Qeylis points his thumbs at himself) This guy! So, the Guardian is actually the scariest thing in the galaxy. Gary wanted to be as powerful as the most powerful thing in the galaxy. Pretty smart actually. What Gary didn't realize is that in D2, guardians aren't very powerful. They're kinda weak and boring. I doubt he would have wanted to be a guardian if the first guardian he ever met was a D2 guardian. Edit: Randal on the other hand. I want his powers! That boss killed me more than any other boss in D1!
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I mean, even the speaker confirmed this during D2. "I know your kind. You started small, and you will end small." That's why Ghaul was so savoring the idea of wielding the Light. If he didn't steal, but was rather bestowed, he would've as a result become significantly stronger.
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He's like kid buu from dbz, not the most powerful but the most dangerous. He's the only one to actually defeat the guardians, yes we pulled off a great win 2nd time round but without the infighting I believe we would have lost again. They could have stripped the light, left our system and blew our star if they hadn't dawdled.
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Yip this says it all https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=qvEXFTSLnkc
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7 RepliesWeakest? Sure, in purely physical terms Ghaul is a mere mortal. Where he shines though is in intelligence, cleverness, and guile. Think about it, he accomplished more than any of our enemies ever did. He took our Light, took our city, and had the Traveller in a cage. What saved us? Luck. We were lucky to have had a shard of the Traveller be able to restore our Light. If it wasn't for that Ghaul would have had total victory. So no, Ghaul was not strong with physical might, rather he was strong with strategy. We were soundly beaten without that shard.
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2 RepliesEdited by Land: 11/3/2017 4:19:43 PMGhaul is on par with the heart of the black garden, siva iron lords and shade of oryx, hes not a raid boss. This post is dumb.
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1 ReplyIt’s kind of annoying how many people here are comparing difficulty. Why are there so many idiots? He clearly means story wise strength...
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1 ReplyI don't know. I feel Calus is weaker. I mean the dude is so weak he is afraid to face us himself and sends a robot instead ...
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1 ReplyTechnically in terms of power level, but he made it up with his military prowess. Honestly if it wasn't for his desire to be gifted with the light and he just took it we would have been in serious trouble.
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3 RepliesYou're comparing a story boss to raid bosses (except Skolas) Oryx and Ghaul has accomplished a lot, but in the story we could easily kill them, but in the D2 campaign Ghaul became ethereal, a literal god that could have killed us, we didn't get to face him since he would diminish us, so that's when the Traveler came in, it knew we couldn't handle Ghaul, so it decided to blast him with its own light knowing the risk of being found by the Tetrahedral ships Side note, if you watch the cutscene after Ghaul kicks you off his ship, the Traveler is floating above the City in IO while being surrounded by triangle clouds, is this a possible foreshadowing?
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Let's compare raid bosses to campaign bosses! Yeah! Lol no.
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Skolas when arc damage modified! Dark times!
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10 RepliesI wouldn't call him weak because we only beat him out of pure luck; if the shard was never there to give us our powers back we'd would have been long dead. Ghaul had beaten us. He took out light, crippled the tower, and killed a lot of lightless warriors. His strength isn't in raw power it's in intelligence; he is the smartest foe we came across so far in destiny period
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1 ReplyGhaul is an incinsequential joke. And what's worse-our strugle against him is, also, inconsequential. We could've just left him alone and Traveler would've finished him off, anyway. There was nothing clever about him, if anything, he had enough sense to bring up the entire fleet and steamroll the walls. Ofcourse, him being able to do so isn't even his own credit, but rather Vanguards trio acting like retards at the statt of the game.
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That’s why he isn’t the raid
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1 ReplyEh. In a way It's comparing apples to oranges in a technical sense. Gaul was the [i]story[/i] boss, and the story bosses are rarely as epic as raid bosses like many you've listed. I mean I know you're approaching it from a lore standpoint but just how he's set up in the game is sort of eh, casual? I guess is the word? But I guess where I'm coming from is if you're gonna toss him in with the raid bosses, then you also have to include the Sol Progeny(s) at the Black Garden's Heart, the body parts of Crota, Omnigul, and those wierd guardian things in the SIVA replication chamber. Because those are all technically "bosses" too, and if we're looking at it like that, then my vote for weakest is those Siva guardians or the Sol minotaurs. And mostly because from every standpoint I can think of, (story or gameplay or otherwise) those were the ones that I was like "that was it?"
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To be fair, Ghaul had a weapon to destroy the sun