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Edited by ruddieman: 7/23/2017 4:41:13 PM
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This is the community in a nutshell...

Too much grenades and supers in pvp, nerf it! *D2 has slower cooldowns and less abilities.. Charge rate of abilities too slow, pump it the f up! People never use their primary, only Icebreaker, no land and wormwood! *D2 focused the game on more primairy gun gameplay... I'm getting teamshot all the time by primairy guns, not fair, fix it! People using supers are too hard to kill! *D2 has less armor when using super... I'm getting killed too fast using my super, give us more armor while using it! Shotguns and snipers are OP and are used too much! *First they change special ammo economy and in D2 they are power weapons... I never get power ammo, give me back my easy OHK and fix it! These are just a few examples of 'requests' coming from the community and Bungie tried to listen to them. But in a way, they can never ever satisfy this community. This beta is supposed to give Bungie constructive criticism and we are not giving them that because we are too busy cracking the game by telling them our personal preferences and our dislikes. People seem not willing to adept to these changes and just want the things that they like and not what could be the best for the whole game. We have barely seen anything from D2, we aren't using the perks that will be available in D2 when it releases. Perks that upgrade our abilities such as faster cooldowns for our abilities. We are only using a fraction of the weapons and have no clue how the new weapons will feel and be like. Same thing with exotics, we don't know how they will be and benefit our Guardian. So please, calm the f down and wait for the full release before you start to whine. It's like saying your job is too hard for you before even starting with it or you start to cry before the big bully even hits you. Let's just enjoy what we have and [b]adept[/b] your playstyle instead of letting Bungie cater to your playstyle. Just my 2 cents, peace out! TLDR; Wait untill the full game is out before whining about the beta. Edit: Some people say these are opinions and that is right, this is also an opinion. I would love to see a smooth D2 just like everybody else does, we can reach that with constructive criticism. I agree pvp changes affect pve too much for now, but maybe that can still change with the release. I also agree on splitting the 2 components and that changes do not always should affect pve and pvp. Pvp in my opinion is better now and pve needs some upgrades. Faster cooldowns and possibly more heavy drops. Hope this clears up some of my thoughts. Edit 2: With the community, I mean the people who are always on a negative side of things and don't look further for solutions. The majority who has a positive vibe, are mostly the ones who don't express their opinions. That is why there is a lot of negativity on the forums and that sometimes bothers me. Hope this bring some understanding to my, little bit, harsh post. Edit 3: Just came across a video of My name is Byf about pve. Found it interesting enough to share with you guys: https://youtu.be/Sy1kTzEusLM Edit 4: Would love to reply to every single 1 of you, but don't have the time to do that. What I would like to see is a more positive forum to discuss the downsides of the game and that we can look to how make this game better. I have a feeling the downsides are pointed out to much with this game without looking at good alternatives. I love hoe pvp is now and would like to see slight changes in pve to make it more fun...not easier to play, it still hast to be a challenge to complete stuff!
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  • Edited by MidsizeDragon99: 7/22/2017 9:52:17 PM
    Love it. Totally agree.

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  • Just letting you know, people complained because these things were abused. It was crutch for other people. It takes real skill to not spam grenades, hammer sidearms and rely on ice breaker/shotguns or handcannons with nonsense range. Sadly, what happened was the sandbox team wrecked a lot of things instead of gave them minor tweaks. Now people are sitting here falling asleep trying to kill people. 😤

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  • It's because you have people who dislike destiny pvp complaining instead of learning & adapting their game play to become better - now they love destiny 2 pvp because it's easy and doesn't require skill - also I love the participation awards 😆 "Oh, you landed 1 bullet on that guys leg and then somebody else did all the work? You defeated him! Great job, you rock!" Then you have the people who actually enjoy destiny pvp who are now complaining about how boring and mediocre destiny 2 is turning out. Then you have the pve community who: 1- saw it coming (come on, pve always suffers from pvp nerfs or "balancing") 2- still wonder wtf bungee was thinking even though they saw it coming (can't blame you all for hoping for the best) 3- are complaining in hopes that maybe, just maybe, things will be "fixed" by launch (sorry guys, it's not broken. It was programmed that way on purpose 🙄)

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  • Spoken completely from a pvp perspective. For those hypocrites well done, but a lot of these concerns are from a pve perspective as well and we never asked for them to begin with. Also not saying you, but a lot of people just keep back tracking when others are allowed to be concerned. First it was " just wait for the reveal will you" then it was wait for the beta and now those people are being told to wait until release. Just my two cents, peace out.

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  • This is the problem. Too much focus on PvP and makes pve just suffer. I am still buying the game but I hate how my shotty and sniper are in the heavy slot. So lame.

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    • A lot of the feedback isn't for PvP it's for PvE and yes in that situation a lot of the feedback is legit.

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      • Yet all those problems are PvP ones not PvE, so it just shows how they have changed stuff to make PvP better at the cost of PvE. Dont get me wrong im all for change to make PvP better but not at the cost of PvE, bungie need to separate the two so that one does not impact the other. Maybe something like D1 loadout for PvE ( primary, secondary and heavy ) and D2 loadout for PvP ( 2x primary and heavy ) that will keep PvE fun while also keeping PvP balanced. They can even have different timers for supers, grenade and melee so that on PvE they recharge quicker.

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        • I'm can't believe people are complaining about getting team shot in a team based game. Like you litterally have no argument and nothing to complain about. Even in rumble you'd get shot by multiple people at the same time. I feel like these people just want their opponents to stand still with no ammo. The way they complain I bet that's the only way they could get a legit kill anyway

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        • No wrong sorry

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        • Every game community has it's toxic side. The toxic side in this community however, is also full-retard.

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        • [quote]TLDR; Wait untill the full game is out before whining about the beta.[/quote] Why would I wait until the full game is out in 2 months to complain about the beta we are playing right now?

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        • Edited by TheShadow-cali: 7/22/2017 9:36:25 PM
          [quote]Too much grenades and supers in pvp, nerf it! *D2 has slower cooldowns and less abilities.. Charge rate of abilities too slow, pump it the f up![/quote] Stopped reading right here. The community has nothing to do with this company going to the extreme with things. Bungie says they listen to the top 1% of the feedback on here. Are you going to tell me nerf post are the top 1% of the feedback this company takes on from this forum? Sorry, it never happened. This is all on the sandbox for deliberately nerfing whats used the most and used that as their (Only solution) I mean, it's not like they had other options right, and the community forced them to over nerf everything in this game right? [b]This community only had a smidge to do with this sandbox deliberate poor actions.[/b] Seriously, go look at how much was actually nerfed in this game do to the fact this sandbox doesn't play their own game. Or here's a thought. How about making small adjustments to see how things actually play out. WoW! What a concept. There is literally no small step when it comes to this sandbox. It's either to the extreme or nothing at all. There isn't one single company in this world that has nerfed as much and many times this sandbox did in a 2 year period. This has to be a world record and on top of it removing things from their game calling that making things a challenge. The truth is, the sandbox has no freaking clue on what tge hell they're doing. Have you ever watched any live streams or any video and watch how them devs actually play a match? You would be better off taking Gary and using him as a Guardian for them devs to hit their target. I'm serious! This is how bad they play their own game and yet they call this a " competitive game" Edit: You have to know how to play before you "think" you know how to adjust weapons. Longer story short. Just because you know how to do coding, does it mean you are the man for the job...

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        • Couldn't the people who complained about everything have been one part of the community, and the people complaining now are the ones that were killing that community which caused them to complain in the first place? It's not the same people complaining... And Bungie wants profits. What ever nerfs and buffs guarantee that, they will do.

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        • Did Mama bungie paid you to defend her? It is so hard for you to admit Destiny2 beta it's CRAP? Google Destiny2 beta review and see the ratings. You think the 99.99% of us are happy that Destiny2 it's junk? We wish that Destiny2 was a better game. Guess what: IT"S JUNK!!! Thanks god they released the beta version so I canceled my pre-order.

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        • Agreed

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        • Weird that they'd have a feedback forum for the beta, if, like you imply, we should wait for the full game to leave feedback. I'm baffled.

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          • The big bully did hit us. He kicked us off his ****ing ship!!! lol In all seriousness I 100% agree with you.

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          • One thing bungie needs to do to save their game: Separate PvP from PvE.

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          • They stated in the weekly update that this is a months old build of the game so most of the complaints were probably dealt with before we even got our hands on it. People are either going to play it or not but I personally wouldn't base it on beta gameplay as many others seem to be doing.

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          • [quote]Too much grenades and supers in pvp, nerf it! *D2 has slower cooldowns and less abilities.. Charge rate of abilities too slow, pump it the f up! [/quote] I never said nerf it nor a lot of other people. You talk about this community as everybody says the same. Says enough about you. Bye.

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          • Edited by Swiftlock: 7/22/2017 6:30:24 PM
            The whole point of a beta is to leave feedback. There are many valid criticisms to be made about what was presented to us. I'm sorry that this bothers you.

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          • Nobody ever said less supers in pvp. Trash kid

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            • Ok since you only bothered posting what you, probably a pvp only player, see as issue let me help you out. Every single issue you posted is pvp related, so tell me why PVE had to suffer for it. PVP was in fact made better, but they are willing to kill PVE for it, so no I won't wait for the full game only to see what it's already clear.

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              • There's a good reason you're trending, but I suspect that there are people who are still going to argue with you because they don't understand this post of believe it's not true.

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              • The flood of "wait for the full game to come out" posts is hilarious. I watched as people said "wait for more info before judging" Then "wait until they do a gameplay reveal" Then "we haven't seen anything yet so wait for more info" Then "wait for the beta before making any judgement" Now it's "wait for the full game" I waited, I'm dissapointed. Too much of wait and see, not enough actual concern for the shenanigans that is clearly on display for all to see..... Pvp killed destiny and it is out there plain as day. Thanks but I'm not waiting any more to see the rest of the changes implemented to pve because of pvp whiners. I have literally had enough, please stop saying wait. Start being concerned that all the waiting in the world won't change bungies ultimate goal of getting into the competitive circuit. Everything pve will eventually be affected by this overall goal.

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