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Edited by ruddieman: 7/23/2017 4:41:13 PM
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This is the community in a nutshell...

Too much grenades and supers in pvp, nerf it! *D2 has slower cooldowns and less abilities.. Charge rate of abilities too slow, pump it the f up! People never use their primary, only Icebreaker, no land and wormwood! *D2 focused the game on more primairy gun gameplay... I'm getting teamshot all the time by primairy guns, not fair, fix it! People using supers are too hard to kill! *D2 has less armor when using super... I'm getting killed too fast using my super, give us more armor while using it! Shotguns and snipers are OP and are used too much! *First they change special ammo economy and in D2 they are power weapons... I never get power ammo, give me back my easy OHK and fix it! These are just a few examples of 'requests' coming from the community and Bungie tried to listen to them. But in a way, they can never ever satisfy this community. This beta is supposed to give Bungie constructive criticism and we are not giving them that because we are too busy cracking the game by telling them our personal preferences and our dislikes. People seem not willing to adept to these changes and just want the things that they like and not what could be the best for the whole game. We have barely seen anything from D2, we aren't using the perks that will be available in D2 when it releases. Perks that upgrade our abilities such as faster cooldowns for our abilities. We are only using a fraction of the weapons and have no clue how the new weapons will feel and be like. Same thing with exotics, we don't know how they will be and benefit our Guardian. So please, calm the f down and wait for the full release before you start to whine. It's like saying your job is too hard for you before even starting with it or you start to cry before the big bully even hits you. Let's just enjoy what we have and [b]adept[/b] your playstyle instead of letting Bungie cater to your playstyle. Just my 2 cents, peace out! TLDR; Wait untill the full game is out before whining about the beta. Edit: Some people say these are opinions and that is right, this is also an opinion. I would love to see a smooth D2 just like everybody else does, we can reach that with constructive criticism. I agree pvp changes affect pve too much for now, but maybe that can still change with the release. I also agree on splitting the 2 components and that changes do not always should affect pve and pvp. Pvp in my opinion is better now and pve needs some upgrades. Faster cooldowns and possibly more heavy drops. Hope this clears up some of my thoughts. Edit 2: With the community, I mean the people who are always on a negative side of things and don't look further for solutions. The majority who has a positive vibe, are mostly the ones who don't express their opinions. That is why there is a lot of negativity on the forums and that sometimes bothers me. Hope this bring some understanding to my, little bit, harsh post. Edit 3: Just came across a video of My name is Byf about pve. Found it interesting enough to share with you guys: https://youtu.be/Sy1kTzEusLM Edit 4: Would love to reply to every single 1 of you, but don't have the time to do that. What I would like to see is a more positive forum to discuss the downsides of the game and that we can look to how make this game better. I have a feeling the downsides are pointed out to much with this game without looking at good alternatives. I love hoe pvp is now and would like to see slight changes in pve to make it more fun...not easier to play, it still hast to be a challenge to complete stuff!
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  • Community opinions of D2 -some hate both pvp and pve -some hate pvp and love pve -some love pvp and hate pve -some love both pvp and pve - some dont care either way - some are undecided See why its dump to lump them all together.

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  • This video sums it up https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=OCJq4re2d-0

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    • If I could give you a real medal 🥇 I would and it would be the size of a dustbin lid as well. You nailed this community in a nutshell. 👍

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    • That is actually pretty accurate.

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    • Summed up in a sentence: "I want to OHK people, but not have them be able to OHK me" That is the sentiment from alot of people in these forums. They want things nerfed because they seem to be so against actually learning to counter things and get better. Its an attitude of "This thing always kills me, Nerf it" not "This thing always kills me, how should I combat it" I think Bungie needs to adopt a policy of just telling the kids here to get better and learn to play...rather than constantly trying to tinker with things.

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      • PvP is fine, honestly it's the most balance it's ever been and any crucibaby crying about the changes needs to stfu because this is exactly what they've claimed to have wanted for the past year now. Its PVE where all of the above is a problem. Luckily, it seems that Bungie is working to fix at least most of these issues. Hopefully they can keep the charge times of PvE different from PvP cause then you'll have all these crucibabies crying about ability spam and getting panic supered again.

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        • Bump

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        • And the real sickening thing about it all is the people that cried will just get rekt no matter what, so it makes no difference...😞

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          • Bruh.

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          • Edited by VerySpookySoup: 7/23/2017 7:13:36 PM
            Personally I love the beta. Bungie actually made the game relatively balanced and I've yet to encounter something too overpowered or underpowered. This is also goes for pve. The pve isn't super easy like it was in D1 but it's also not super difficult. I actually enjoyed that one story mission and strike a lot more than the majority of the D1 missions. People need to also understand that this is THE BETA AND NOT THE ACTUAL GAME. If Bungie sees any issues I'm sure they'll fix it when the full game releases.

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          • Theses were and are all real issues, bungie just managed to find the worst possible fixes to them. (Except double primaries in PvP I really like that)

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          • Darksouls has a saying GET GOOD I'm getting team shot,well why are going into 2v1 situations? Play smart The fusion rifles op. It's the perk rampage ;)... It's a power weapon it's meant to kill in one shot. Don't be a noob and run towards it

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            • For the record, the only thing I ever complained about in D1 was lag. I never had any issues with anything being OP or overused or OHK or anything like that. Everything I love about D1 is not in D2, was taken out or nerfed into the ground. Very disappointing but, the game is a visual masterpiece.

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            • Simple fix SEPARATE PVP and PVE YOU IDIOTS. All those problems are from the crucibabys crying flooding the devs offices...... ruined for PVP again

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              • Up vote!

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              • Edited by it's pronounced Hai su ta: 7/23/2017 4:34:53 PM
                People forget a simple thing, It's their vision not yours. You either adapt and stick with them on the journey, or you just don't and move on, There's no in-between.

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              • The issue is that some of the community want the game to be one way and some want it to be the other way. It isn't the same people constantly complaining.

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                • With abilities, PVP changes should not affect PVE

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                  • Bungie created the negative attitudes with their lies. You have to hold the accountable at some point don't be a blind fanboy. Both sides suck n our community manager is a sheep who does nothing.

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                  • Edited by MC 077 Lasombra: 7/23/2017 9:14:28 AM
                    Oh. I didn't realize the Destiny community was only concerned with pvp. I must of missed the pve part of Destiny community getting shafted by the new pvp changes get rammed into their part of the game and wrecking it. But sure. People only care about pvp.

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                    • Yeah...this goalpost-moving is tiresome. We're critical of the gameplay reveal. "Wait until you play the Beta." We're critical of the Beta. "OMG it's an old build, the final game will be different." We're critical of the launch game. "You only played for 10 hours you scrub, git gud" or "don't like, don't buy." It's such a slippery slope of defense, TBH.

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                      It's not people changing opinions. It's different people voicing their opinions. For example, I like fast paced, intensive gameplay, where the person with the most skill, whether it be with abilities or with guns, wins. Sure, there were moments in D1 I hated, such as the Firebolt meta, the only thing in this game that truly ever was OP and required no skill (so what you want about OP weaponry like Vex and Thorn and Year 1 shotguns. At least you had to aim.). Then there was the sniper meta during TTK, where everyone sat back and camped, waiting for someone to peak a corner. There was nothing fast paced or intensive about this. During both of these times, I spoke out against them. But there were other times I enjoyed myself. HoW was by far the most fun PvP Destiny has ever seen. If Thorn and Firebolts had received a nerf, TLW had received the fix to its ADS glitch, and Autos had received a good buff, it would have been perfect in my eyes. The meta we had before they removed special ammo was also enjoyable. But during both these times, I enjoyed myself and had minimal complaints, so I wasn't incredibly vocal about my opinion. But other people did complain during those metas, and their opinion was heard. Some other people did enjoy Firebolts and the sniper meta, and their opinions were not heard. Which brings me to the moral of the story. You act as if the Destiny community all shares one opinion, and it keeps changing it's mind as soon as BNG tries to satisfy them. This is incorrect. The Destiny community isn't some hive mind. It's made up of entirely different individuals under the same banner, and can be as similar to each other as stars in the sky, or as different as peanut butter and jelly. But, stars go best together, as does peanut butter and jelly. Now my opinion of D2? [spoiler]There's nothing fast paced, intensive, or skilled about it. It's a decent game based off the beta, but it took everything that made Destiny stand out from other FPS games and flushed it down the toilet. It's now more of a Halo/Black Ops 3 hybrid. This game should not be called Destiny 2.[/spoiler] #TitanMasterRace

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                      • The fact that the bulk of the forums is saying the same thing IS feedback...... Common complaints from a beta is the exact kind of thing Bungie are looking for. Why should people wait for the full release when they clearly see something they disagree with?....

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                        • You just proved the problem.... all those complaining about D1 were mostly problems with pvp... they fix that at the cost of pve , so now that crowd is complaining.... Bungie just cant understand that trying to balance two different game modes is impossible. So you'll will always have contradicting complaints.

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                          • If there's one thing you proved its this. Piss off the PvP base, no one cares. Piss of the PvE base, mass 'whining' and 'empty complaints' if you don't like the game.

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                          • Edited by Knight: 7/23/2017 3:46:31 PM
                            Charge rate for melees and supers should be in between Destiny 1 and Destiny 2. I think the reason why people say that the primary usage is boring is because 90% of games you can only use primaries. Power ammo is a joke and can only be used by 1 person.

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