See for me, it has nothing to do with my PvP skill as to why I rarely set foot into ToO. I am not a bad player, but I am NOWHERE in the same league as some of these top notch players. Even so, I would not back down should I be placed against them. Yes I will cuss if my head is blasted off the moment I think I have my shot lined up, but that is usually my reaction in normal PvP. I am rarely in ToO because most of the people on my friends list are either not on when I am during the weekend, or they are already in matches with a full team. I have come to accept I may never make it back to the Lighthouse (made it there once back in y1), but I would still like to get on sometimes and just have fun. Hell, I still need to complete part the part of my RoI book that requires completing passages, and that may end up being the only one I do not end up completing and all I need to do it is 5 times lol. Oh well, I will continue working on getting better at areas I feel I need the work (no more shotguns for me thanks, snipers are what I use now).

Go to a two-tier system. Every week once you go to the lighthouse you only play other Lighthouse winners. That way it's truly a competitive thing and people don't get pub stomped as often

Maybe just one free card each week and then the rest are as usual. No losses would make trials just a grindfest

Trials will soon either: 1.) Be barren of players other than the top .1% 2.) Be removed completely for lack of players. 3.) Change better suited for casuals. Stats have shown that trials had 900,000+ participants when ROI dropped. It has declined in players every weekend and this weekend had only about 100,000 participants. It's been on a steady decline and soon will only have a few hundred players left if they dont change something. It has not sat at a specific number and if it does it'll be at an all time low [b]We all know how bungie changes things to be better for casuals.[/b] Trials was said to not be for casuals, however bungie has said things and then changed them.

IMO the best way to fix this is: 1. Get rid of the boons completely, and just make it to where you automatically have a mercy and only have to make it to 7 wins to go flawless. This removes a system that is kinda stupid since most people just delete their card if they lose before their 5th win anyways. 2. Make people that have already gone flawless on that character only play against people that are also flawless that week. Meaning after you go flawless on all three of your characters then you will only be put up against flawless teams. This removes two of the biggest complaints that most people have with trials in its current rendition. There are less people that can just be straight out carried because streamers/carriers can only carry three people. This also alleviates the problem of people unable to go flawless. With the new system, everybody will be able to go flawless with enough persistence. Now I can already hear the complaints that trials is only supposed to be for the "hardcore" player, but things need to change. Trials participation is down almost 50 percent since the launch of ROI, and that number is steadily decreasing, and will soon begin to spiral. Players like myself that are good, but not top tier will soon start to fall off as the competition becomes even more stiff. Hopefully with changes like the ones above we can keep the community healthier, longer. [spoiler]TLDR trials needs a few changes where it's still competitive, but average/above average players have a better chance, or the game will die even faster. [/spoiler]

'' It's supposed to be for the best, of the best, of the best, of best, of the best, of the best..'' responses inbound....

I understand you frustration. It is a tough thing. If you are like me ( grimior nerd ) unfortunately it is a part of the game that not everyone will succeed at. I'm still trying to get my doubles grimior complete. But with time patience and one hell of a grind you will get it one day.

Trials has proven that it brings the worst out of the community. Paid carries, hate mail, special snowflake syndrome, etc. I am absolutely enchanted too when elitists say that "Trails isn't for casuals." I hate to break it to them but Destiny isn't a hardcore in-depth RPG. It's a console exclusive casual game. No matter how you slice it, It's CoD levels of cuckery. By the way, only about 16-20% of all the players in Trials alone make it to the lighthouse each weekend. About a little under a million play a weekend. Many are repeat players who go every weekend. Which means that there is another massive percentage of people who aren't even enticed to try it. So I assume that out of the entire population of Destiny players, the percentage has ever even been to the lighthouse is easily a single digit number. So then Bungie claims it's difficult to give us content constantly, while running a weekly event that no one wants to play. Sounds a bit like shooting yourself in the foot of you ask me. But they keep it this way to keep less than a tenth of the community content with being special snowflakes. Plus they already have an extra special emblem for players who are actually good at PvP. If you have lighthouse gear but no scarab you are either a. A cheater b. Know people who are above average players (or cheaters), or c. An above player yourself. You are not a PvP god. Here is the sauce: [https://www.google.com/amp/s/gamerant.com/destiny-trials-osiris-lighthouse-113/amp/?client=ms-android-verizonurl]

Yeah that's gonna be a no from me dawg

Spawn flipping seriously is a must in Trials. There are way too many maps which give the other team the advantage for Heavy, height or whatever. As for the removing losses entirely, it would remove the entire use of Trials, so no. Changing it to 9 win = lighthouse, disregarding the losses would be better. At least that would keep people going on instead of dumping the coin with 1 loss

I just want to know how many characters go to the lighthouse. Not how many times the light house is achieved. Would be interesting to see total visits vs. unique visits.