[quote] That’s obviously not what’s being discussed though. How does that give it value? What does it being strand do?[/quote] ... no, that's quite obviously exactly what's being discussed. It gives it value because it fulfills those desires based on its nature as a strand rocket launcher. Being strand means it is not stasis, arc, solar, or void. So, perhaps the player does not want to use those elements. It interacts with the subclass and any active strand artefact mods. You seriously don't know these things?

[quote][quote] That’s obviously not what’s being discussed though. How does that give it value? What does it being strand do?[/quote] ... no, that's quite obviously exactly what's being discussed. It gives it value because it fulfills those desires based on its nature as a strand rocket launcher. Being strand means it is not stasis, arc, solar, or void. So, perhaps the player does not want to use those elements. It interacts with the subclass and any active strand artefact mods. You seriously don't know these things?[/quote] [quote]It’s a shame there’s no reason to use a strand rocket outside of being able to do strand kills and rocket kill bounties simultaneously. Even with full surges, this rocket does less than any other archetype or any precision frame with a damage perk.[/quote] As mentioned earlier “it exists” and “I want to” are not reasons outside of being hyper literal. How does it being strand give it any value. What does it do that would make you want to use it over anything else? How does it change what I said and what you replied to me saying?

No, they are valid reasons. Why do I want chicken over beef? I want to eat chicken. Why do I want to watch a show over a movie? Because I want to watch a show. Why do I walk in the rain instead of in the sun? Because I want to walk in the rain. "Hyper-literal?" None of this has to do with answering a question "literally." You ostensibly are asking for an "extrinsic" reason, I am relaying that "intrinsic" reasons exist and you would do well to cover your bases. Otherwise you may continue to misunderstand others.

[quote]No, they are valid reasons. Why do I want chicken over beef? I want to eat chicken. Why do I want to watch a show over a movie? Because I want to watch a show. Why do I walk in the rain instead of in the sun? Because I want to walk in the rain. "Hyper-literal?" None of this has to do with answering a question "literally." You ostensibly are asking for an "extrinsic" reason, I am relaying that "intrinsic" reasons exist and you would do well to cover your bases. Otherwise you may continue to misunderstand others.[/quote] That’s not what’s being discussed here. I said it’s bad and has no reason to be used outside of completing overlapping objectives. Your response was being hyper literal in order to have a gatcha moment. You can’t say why you want to, just that you do, lmao. Give an actual reason. I’m assuming you’re well aware that it’s irrelevant and your reading comprehension is not actually that bad. You can’t just drag the conversation completely off topic. It being strand doesn’t give it any value since it does nothing better than other rockets and does nothing better than other strand weapons. The rocket should have been better. The original point of the post that you have tried so hard to steer away from. Neither of us care about being literal with made up “reasons”. Neither of us will be using it.

[quote]That’s not what’s being discussed here. I said it’s bad and has no reason to be used outside of completing overlapping objectives. Your response was being hyper literal in order to have a gatcha moment. You can’t say why you want to, just that you do, lmao. Give an actual reason.[/quote] Desire is a legitimate reason, dude. You have to be joking. Desire also, can absolutely can come from intrinsic value. [quote] I’m assuming you’re well aware that it’s irrelevant and your reading comprehension is not actually that bad. You can’t just drag the conversation completely off topic.[/quote] How is it off topic if you continue to reiterate that there's no reason to use it, and I continue to refute your claim? [quote] It being strand doesn’t give it any value since it does nothing better than other rockets and does nothing better than other strand weapons. The rocket should have been better.[/quote] It does infinitely, immeasurably better than any other rocket at dealing strand damage. It does infinitely, immeasurably better than any other strand weapon at being a rocket launcher. Your narrow, prescriptive reasoning only reveals your taste and feelings, not reality. To say it "should" have been "better" is also fully prescriptive and comes from your own value system, not reality. Others may share this view, which mostly boils down to, "for my reasons, I will use another rocket over this one. Even though I wish this rocket could satisfy my taste and desire, it is not the case."

[quote]Desire is a legitimate reason, dude. You have to be joking. Desire also, can absolutely can come from intrinsic value. How is it off topic if you continue to reiterate that there's no reason to use it, and I continue to refute your claim? It does infinitely, immeasurably better than any other rocket at dealing strand damage. It does infinitely, immeasurably better than any other strand weapon at being a rocket launcher. Your narrow, prescriptive reasoning only reveals your taste and feelings, not reality. To say it "should" have been "better" is also fully prescriptive and comes from your own value system, not reality. Others may share this view, which mostly boils down to, "for my reasons, I will use another rocket over this one. Even though I wish this rocket could satisfy my taste and desire, it is not the case."[/quote] What’s the reason for you to have that “desire”? “It exist” and “just cause” applies to everything and clearly isn’t what was said. Being hyper literal and dragging the conversation away from the topic of the thread does nothing to change anything I have said. What does doing strand damage matter? How does that give it value? Again, it’s a bad weapon. There is no scenario where this weapon is useful for outside of completing overlapping objectives. [quote]You could shoot 4 in a row with that, but the grenade throw would still delay the last rocket. The dungeon rocket does more damage base, can shoot 4 in a row and has a damage perk.[/quote] [quote]Worst rocket in the game. It’s not an option and won’t even be the best strand rocket because they’ll powercreep it out next season like they did with the GG scout.[/quote] [quote]There are other rockets that are easier to obtain that are better. The solstice rocket is probably the worst rocket to have released in the last two years.[/quote] [quote]Don’t need to time travel to tell it’s a terrible rocket, lmao. You can get the guaranteed pattern for a better precision frame if you really want. Or any rocket that isn’t a precision frame, which are better[/quote] I’m done replying to off topic bot logic. The weapon doesn’t incentivize playing the event and won’t be used.

[quote] What’s the reason for you to have that “desire”? “It exist” and “just cause” applies to everything and clearly isn’t what was said. Being hyper literal and dragging the conversation away from the topic of the thread does nothing to change anything I have said. What does doing strand damage matter? How does that give it value? Again, it’s a bad weapon. There is no scenario where this weapon is useful for outside of completing overlapping objectives.[/quote] Again, you're prattling off about your narrow value system which can only value something based on it being better than something else. Which. It is. Better at every gun in the game. At being a strand rocket launcher. Being strand damage gives it value because I want to use strand damage. Because I have that desire. Enjoying something for its sake is valid. Enjoying something for the advantage or reward it grants is valid.

[quote]Again, you're prattling off about your narrow value system which can only value something based on it being better than something else. Which. It is. Better at every gun in the game. At being a strand rocket launcher. Being strand damage gives it value because I want to use strand damage. Because I have that desire. Enjoying something for its sake is valid. Enjoying something for the advantage or reward it grants is valid.[/quote] “Kvostov is the best gun in the game named kvostov” God what a stupid point, lmao. Bot logic at its finest.

It literally is logic. And what you've said is correct. Again, the rocket not falling into your tastes and value system does not mean there is no reason for anyone to use it.

[quote]It literally is logic. And what you've said is correct. Again, the rocket not falling into your tastes and value system does not mean there is no reason for anyone to use it.[/quote] “Kvostov is the best gun that’s named Kvostov” Bot logic, lmao. The rocket is bad and no one will be using it.

[quote][quote]It literally is logic. And what you've said is correct. Again, the rocket not falling into your tastes and value system does not mean there is no reason for anyone to use it.[/quote] “Kvostov is the best gun that’s named Kvostov” Bot logic, lmao. The rocket is bad and no one will be using it.[/quote] You can call it and me whatever you want. Doesn't make anything I said false. Whether anybody uses it is irrelevant to my claim. Thanks for conceding by moving the goalposts.

[quote]You can call it and me whatever you want. Doesn't make anything I said false. Whether anybody uses it is irrelevant to my claim. Thanks for conceding by moving the goalposts.[/quote] You can say something true and it can still be stupid and irrelevant. Kvostov is the best gun in the game named Kvostov. True statement and a stupid one. You moved the goalpost to get a gatcha from being hyper literal. This isn’t related to the original topic in any way, lmao. You’ve dragged us over here. Bot logic at its finest. The rocket is bad and no one will use it.

You were the one who claimed there was no reason to use it. That's the truth. Say whatever you will, but that much is false.

[quote]You were the one who claimed there was no reason to use it. That's the truth. Say whatever you will, but that much is false.[/quote] There’s no reason to aside from the hyper literal one you gave and the overlapping objectives reason. You can say your reoan is because you want to. That could be true, but is still stupid. I doubt you want to though. “Kvostov is the best gun in the game named Kvostov”

[quote][quote]You were the one who claimed there was no reason to use it. That's the truth. Say whatever you will, but that much is false.[/quote] There’s no reason to aside from the hyper literal one you gave and the overlapping objectives reason. You can say your reoan is because you want to. That could be true, but is still stupid. I doubt you want to though. “Kvostov is the best gun in the game named Kvostov”[/quote] Ok. "There's no reason but there is your reason, even though I don't like it." Now, there's an example of "not logic"

[quote]Ok. "There's no reason but there is your reason, even though I don't like it." Now, there's an example of "not logic"[/quote] It’s just not an actual reason, lmao “Kvostov is the best gun named kvostov” Bot logic, lmao. No one will be suing the rocket.