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3/26/2022 5:01:37 PM
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Freelance Trials needs to be permanent

Don't know how many times this needs to be said.

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  • I like how Bungie sees solo players just as fodder for their beloved clans and "friend teams". If you queue up solo you have a 95% chance to play vs premade of 3. If you queue up as a premade of 3 you have a 95% chance to play vs 3 bad solos. And this, as data shows, with a 50/50 split of solo and premade players. Enabling matchmaking for Trials for solos was just done to make life and flawless for clans/"friends" easier. Bungie does not want solo players. They actively try to lock them out of all relevant rewards. No matchmaking for higher levels of Nightfalls? Even if they would be easy? Here we go. Locking the payed for Gjallarhorn behind a "friend"-gate? Here we go.

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    • then remove flawless pool

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      • Edited by michael: 3/29/2022 2:19:52 AM
        Call me crazy but in my personal experience I think freelance comp, IB, and trials are way more fun than playing with people. I have plenty of high level PvP friends to play with but I actually find myself turning down invites to these gamemodes more often than not because I think the solo experience is just way better than the "stacked vs stacked" experience. I think it is way more enjoyable to play by yourself with people you have no chemistry with against other people also playing by themselves because I frankly think the idea of "teamwork" in this game is fake and ultimately comes down to who is better at running in a pack 3-2-1 slide challenging with hand cannons and baiting eachother which I don't find very fun to be on the giving or receiving end of. Believe me I could run 3 deep in comp and trials and win pretty much every game but I find the tradeoff of potentially useless/uncoordinated teammates for worse competition to be a lot more enjoyable, and the success of getting to 5500 solo or of going flawless by yourself to be a lot more satisfying. 3v3 in a team, against a team, is just very boring even if you have a good team.

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        • no trials needs to be deleted from the game permanently right alongside the rest of the crucible modes

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          • We can’t even get legend activity matchmaking

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          • Had 4 games as a solo and carrying the other 2 who were teammates to wins. I had 21 kills and the last guy and him mate had 5 kills between them. Then I got with 2 friends and ran into multiple flawless teams. So yes!! Am all for freelance

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          • I understand now why bungie doesn't matchmake end game activities. People going in solo will have expectations and when those are not filled, they will start fuming and demanding more. That is why Bungie specifically stated that going in solo is to get your feet wet and get a few rewards, as a disclaimer. The trials population has already been broken apart into two categories with the flawless pool and can't be divided anymore. In fact, on freelance weeks, they need to remove the flawless pool to avoid splitting the playerbase in 4.

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            • Edited by Reqioz: 3/28/2022 3:14:35 AM
              you boys remember when we used to play for hours and hours trying to go flawless, countless teams and getting steamrolled thousands of times before we got it? Ah the good ol days. Now people can’t even make friends to play with 😐

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              • Edited by coda-jj: 3/28/2022 7:00:11 PM
                3 games in a row of 3 solos against a 3 stack of try hards. Why aren’t they playing against each other. I mean does it ever happen? It’s as if the queue prioritizes teams against solos. Why couldn’t us solos faced each other once?

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                • Edited by GoldenBagel JM: 3/29/2022 2:49:40 AM
                  Agreed! And class abilities need to have their cooldown increased significantly in pvp. Invisibility, overshield and constant healing is an issue especially in a game mode where your life often ends up depending on those abilities

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                • I’m happy to come back a bit later and see that this post has way more likes.

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                • Edited by Hulk: 3/28/2022 8:35:20 PM
                  I agree, but create a new competitive team only game mode. Allow cosmetic awards and emblems only to be in that game mode.

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                • Yes, but also no. Because if it ever becomes permanent, we need matchmaking that isn't rigged. It was literally programmed like IB freelance and it sucks. Predetermined matches left and right with 1 good player carrying 2 absoltely trash players against 3 decent players. Not fun. Also the freelance matchmaking always balances matches to keep everyone at a 50 % win rate which makes matches even more rigged. All that SBMM garbage has no place in a win streak requiring game mode like trials. It's already unbearable in iron banner and quickplay. You see solo players even queue regular iron banner more often these days because of the heavy SBMM in freelance (excuse me team balancing which totally isn't SBMM). And freelance in trials felt the same after people stopped playing. One sided blowout matches everywhere due to the rigged SBMM trash matchmaking this company threw together. Apparently Bungie hates solo players.

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                  • Anyone against this lost all credibility when Bungie introduced freelance gambit. If they're willing to split what little playerbase is there, there's no reason Trials can't be freelance.

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                    • Edited by coda-jj: 3/28/2022 6:48:26 PM
                      This sucks

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                    • Edited by Dude Abides 227: 3/27/2022 8:02:44 PM
                      I've been solo queing a lot this season, prob 80% of my matches between the two weeks. I notice far too many players who have zero business and I mean zero business being in the only "endgame" pvp mode without a team. These players are awful and usually it's because they lack effort and do not take anytime to learn basic game awareness and fundamentals. Freelance just dilutes the game mode. For top players, it's a joke, walk in the park. For scrubs, it enables them to not get better, not take the time to learn maps lanes and when to push, when to guard a rez, etc. As a pvp main, I make sure if I'm going to attempt a raid, I at the very least, watch a guide or talk to someone to get the gist of the mechanics.

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                      • Get better

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                      • In regards to hit registration, do you guys ever notice a major difference between Pc and Xbox or PlayStation . We must have played 15 or more games of trials yesterday with a PC player and I can’t even tell you how many times my shotgun whiffed . I normally sit above a 2.0 KDA, which I acknowledge isn’t good but dropped to a 1.94 after the -blam!- whippings I was taken yesterday . Are PC players that much better or is there a lot of registration issues . It felt that if they normally would kill you with a two burst pulse , it would only take them one burst and my player was eliminated . That happened a lot yesterday. A few times I got two tapped by a hand cannon. A lot of frustration yesterday .

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                        • Trials in general need a revamp.

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                        • Nope... bungie will run out of cannon fodder for 3 stacks in this mode. The pvp is for laughs, don't take it seriously. Even mobile games for toddlers have better pvp balancing than Destiny. This just shows how much Bungie cares about this mode.

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                        • It's a double edge sword imo. On the one hand you don't face stacks, on the other good players are punished having to carry the bad players. If lucky enough bad players get carried by the good players' efforts lol

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                          • People cry just as hard over trials if not harder during freelance is all I'm saying

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                          • no there should be no Freelance mode at all in the game and im a solo player. stop crying all the time

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                          • As long as they keep hand cannons, shotguns and fusions the way they are. The matchmaking and playlists won’t make a difference. You are rewarded for certain weapon archetypes that autoaims for you. But I agree. We need freelance to stay permanent, let the stacked sweats play each other and let the ones that play solo play each other. It has nothing to do with skillgaps as to why we need a freelance list.

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                          • Doubt it, don't know why these -blam!- bunghole devs allow matchmaking to be so -blam!- atrocious but boy do they like it. I think the deal they have with the sweaties is they get to collect it in a jar or something idk.

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                          • [quote]Don't know how many times this needs to be said.[/quote] There’s no point asking for it to be permanent at this point. PvP regulars will just fight you. If they made freelance permanent the PvP regulars would have no one to play against because they only want to play against lesser players. They can’t do that if you’re off in a pool that doesn’t allow for them to run their three stacks against you. They have to play with themselves- and they won’t do that.

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