And people want matchmaking in raids. These forums would be on fire all the time then.

I've started noticing this more often. Seems like the speed runners are coming into the Nightfalls not for the chance at loot or the 100k Challenge, but for simple completions. I'm guessing its for a ADA 1 quest or other quest that just requires completions. Easy fix would be to lock the next zone until all Champions are defeated.

Soon as I read yah post @Disc I knew exactly what the replies were going to be and indeed I'm with you 100% on this but if populous will go as far to hold onto a orb in a public event just so someone will NOT make it go Heroic, trust me...Champs will be skipped for whaaaatever reason it maybe and most of the time its due to this...this is the player base you have to contend with and it goes on and on... [b]-1280 nightfall? Yeah I am skipping champions.[/b] [b]-PSA: stop grinding the matchmaking version for the guns. It's pointless.[/b] [b]-The players who actually WANT platinum rewards are putting together fireteams from lfg. Most people doing match made nightfalls are doing it for bounties.[/b] [b]-The chance for a drop EVEN WITH platinum is EXTREMELY low (typically). You could do more then 10 and not get a single drop. Bungie actually EXPECTS you to go on lfg and form a team for the higher difficulties (specifically master and grandmaster).[/b] [b]-People don’t usually care about others in matchmade nightfalls. They’re in if for their own means. Can’t expect them to want 100k or platinum rewards.[/b] [b]-Matchmade players are absolutely unpredictable. You never know who or what you’ll get. With lfg, you can set bars of entry to weed out undesirable players.[/b] [b]-If you can’t get the help - then find a better clan[/b] [b]-Get a fireteam[/b] [b]-Stop running the 1280 NF, genius.[/b] [b]-If you want to tell people what to do, or not to do, stop going into matchmaking[/b] Basically it boils down to this, fastest point from A to B period end of story, there is zero efficiency involved no matter how it's word spun here. Wish everyone would could should but they never will...

[quote]If you are running the 1280 matchmade Nightfall, please do your part and kill the champions. Its a bit frustrating running this in an attempt to grind for the Plug One (or any NF weapon) and we keep getting a Gold medal completion because of the Champions de-spawning. You will be helping both yourself and your teammates out. This nightfall has an abundance of Champions so please do your part. Thanks and happy grinding! Edit 1: Some of you may not be aware that running past a zone causes the Champions to pack their bags and hit the road. Edit 2: Yes, I'm aware that killing these Champions is "easy", but the task falling to one person is time consuming. It becomes even more difficult a task to take down four of them when [see Edit 1].[/quote] Expecting random people to kill champions because you want the plug 1 is kinda funny.. if you want it that bad set up a team (1280 you dont even need coms if you have social anxitety) just post what you're doing and find people like minded.. I run through and only kill what I need to advance to get the pinnacle/powerful gear drops.. sorry not sorry

[quote]If you are running the 1280 matchmade Nightfall, please do your part and kill the champions. Its a bit frustrating running this in an attempt to grind for the Plug One (or any NF weapon) and we keep getting a Gold medal completion because of the Champions de-spawning. You will be helping both yourself and your teammates out. This nightfall has an abundance of Champions so please do your part. Thanks and happy grinding! Edit 1: Some of you may not be aware that running past a zone causes the Champions to pack their bags and hit the road. Edit 2: Yes, I'm aware that killing these Champions is "easy", but the task falling to one person is time consuming. It becomes even more difficult a task to take down four of them when [see Edit 1].[/quote] Meh, if a certain game plan of killing everything and/or certain things is of importance, roll with a team you know. Otherwise, quit whining and crying telling randoms how to play their game. If randoms ruin your experience, reread my first sentence.

I had 2 randoms from LFG do this in a Master nightfall. It's absolutely infuriating.

Everytime a "speedrunner" dies in a strike/nightfall that I'm in, I never revive them. If they can't handle everything solo already, they shouldn't be speedrunning. I'd had people get mad at me for not reviving them when they charge through a room and die repeatedly while I "slowly" plink my way through the mobs. If you're going to speedrun, be able to handle yourself. Simple as that.

I find it interesting that so many people are just saying to get 2 others so you don't have to run with blueberries. My counter "argument" to that is... what's the point of speed running a NF and missing champions (especially the match made difficulties)? I'm not opposed to getting through it as fast as possible, but isn't the point of the NF to get the platinum rewards? If you are missing champions you may as well be playing the Vanguard Strike playlist.

What platform do you play on sir?

PSA: stop grinding the matchmaking version for the guns. It's pointless.

I’m just going to be frank. You cant expect good results from a 1280 nightfall. This is for a myriad of reasons. 1. The players who actually WANT platinum rewards are putting together fireteams from lfg. Most people doing match made nightfalls are doing it for bounties. 2. The chance for a drop EVEN WITH platinum is EXTREMELY low (typically). You could do more then 10 and not get a single drop. Bungie actually EXPECTS you to go on lfg and form a team for the higher difficulties (specifically master and grandmaster). 3. People don’t usually care about others in matchmade nightfalls. They’re in if for their own means. Can’t expect them to want 100k or platinum rewards. 4. Matchmade players are absolutely unpredictable. You never know who or what you’ll get. With lfg, you can set bars of entry to weed out undesirable players. 4.

Ive been having great luck just lfging. "1310 farm no mic kill everything" They fill in like literally 4 seconds and I haven't had a single guy skip anything, 100ks every run in like 10-12 min super easy. That's what I would recommend.

You’re in a clan with 74 other players - surely you could find 2 others to communicate with & run 1280+ & higher Nightfalls? Have you ever asked? If you can’t get the help - then find a better clan

Yet there are those who want matchmaking on everything...