I want my black armory guns brought up to current level. I’m sure I’m not the only one. It took a lot of time and effort to get the rolls we wanted

I still miss the best raid ever made which is Crown of Sorrow. And Red War is probably the best story which actually makes sense and does what it is supposed to be unlike the rest

And here are some reason why: [b]- The best pvp maps are in content vault[/b] There are pvp maps in the vault, but they're not the best. Not by a long shot. You want the best maps, go back to Destiny 1. [b]- The whole Red Legion story is in content vault[/b] Yeah...and? The Red War campaign was meh at best. [b]- The best planets (Io and Mars) are in content vault.[/b] Again, no, not the best. [b]- The best strikes are in content vault[/b] No. [b]- The best raids are in content vault[/b] You really need to remove 'best' out of your vocabulary, you're not using it accurately. [b]- The currently pvp maps are shotgun maps. Everyone is forced to play shotgun because of the shit design of the maps. For example the moon maps. No wonder if everyone plays Fellwinter Lie[/b] Most of the maps created for Destiny 2, whether vaulted or not, are shotgun maps. This point is moot. [b]- Gambit gets boring after few time and 1 month playtime because its alway the same maps. Make more maps and bring back content vault maps[/b] Gambit is boring period. [b]- For new players: they cant get nightfall, world and raid emblems also they never got a chance to play those activities!!![/b] Oh well. [b]- After 4-5 months i play this game every week, the game gets kinda boring. BECAUSE OF CONTENT VAULT. You wanna make new content but you also REMOVE content. Thats not a good idea. The game is just a grind now. The only thing that makes fun are raids and Nightfalls. I hope with Witch Queen, content vault is removed!!! We wanna play ALL activities that Destiny 2 ever got. A lot of people quit the game because of this. Seasonal Stuff is good but if we remove Beyond Light and Seasonal Activities the base game would be EDZ and Nessus with 0 Missions. And maybe Reef and Dreaming City if you buy a still over priced DLC where you only got SUNSETTED weapons except you play the Dungeon and the weekly missions. Make the dlc maybe 5€ and im sure everyone would buy it[/b] You think the game is a grind NOW because content was vaulted? Oh my sweet summer child. (Stopped paying attention for a few paragraphs necause you're just irrationally butthurt about sunset gear) [b]- I and a lot of people love your game but if you guys ruin it a lot of people will quit this game and you only got this IP so listen to your fans!!! And i heard that Halo also arent that good as it was back in they days.[/b] Focus, pumpkin. You're talking about Destiny 2, not Halo. That's a different company now, sorry you didn't get the memo. [b]- About Lore and Story. I dont care if you removed the planets because of something stupid called "Darkness". Our guardians controlls now Darkness aka Stasis, so we are kinda resistant against Darkness so basicly there is no problem to revisit the old planets. Also if there is a problem and why you dont tell the player that you are in the past, like playing the old content is just your old guardian and when you play the new content you are in the present. Also the Vex travell through space and time, so why we couldnt either? Travel to the past to play the old content. Like i say before so much potential but you dont use it. I know you wanna make money but why you dont create a masterpiece of game. Its is a great game but it lost his charme because of content vault. New players cant play the old stuff and then they watch old videos of youtube and maybe they never play the game. Because they "see all" and so you also lost more players and potential money.[/b] Yeah, all of this doesn't work like that. [b]- Potential that arent used: Bringing back Venus with a new storyline and why it survived. Instead you bring back just the raid. Wow... The whole darkness in the tower could be used to get back to venus to find something that we need to remove the endless darkness. But nope just killing bosses in a virtual reality created by the Vex. Very creative bungie *claps sarcastic*[/b] We don't have Darkness in the tower, the last city is being slowly assimilated/destroyed by a vex simulation. [b]- Seasonal Content = Seasonal Activities all over. Its not very nice. I mean its just the 4th week but still. We got some Parkour tbh thats really cool. I love that. I also love the design of this season, but why you arent create more then that. You have money and the potential to do that!![/b] Working as intended. - About above: i hope we get a sick exotic mission like Presage. Thats the content we love !! [b]- Thats just some stuff i have in mind. Just let me work for you guys lol[/b] Please don't hire this guy. Luke was bad enough.

Not that simple. They’re remodeling stuff and will bring it back later. Be patient.

I would rather not have the game be 175 GB and take 20 minutes to load

No,they explained multiple time why they did it and why it was necessary and let's be honest the content they cut wasn't great(aside from certain strike) Leviathan was always hated until they removed it,the raid lair where boring or just annoying.scourge only got popular because of how good anarchy is People's mostly remember the good parts but forget how terrible mercury and mars were terrible(mercury weapon and escalation protocol) it's not like we would still get sundial,forges and menagerie if it wasn't for the content vault It make sense in the story ,to cut game size and make everything run smoother. The only 2 content piece that they shouldn't had removed were the whisper and outbreak mission....

I feel like if anything, they should make old armors available. Like throw them into the legendary loot pool or something like they did with the Black Armory armor. Like the old armors are technically not "Content Vaulted" since you can still view most of them in collections. It's just they're unobtainable. Armors like Io's hunter set is great looking but impossible to get now. The armor set from the Mars special activity that was all warmind themed is gone. Now that we have transmog there should be some way to get these old armors so people can be more creative with their outfits.

I want titan back... Such a cool planet Wish it was bigger

[quote]The idea of a "content vault" was the STUPIEST thing i have ever read when i comeback to destiny 2. Pls bring, us, back Io, Mercury and Mars. I dont care about Titan. We need more planets. More spaces. There is such a great potential to the game that YOU destroying it WITH CONTENT VAULT. No one have ever asked to remove content. We OG players have paid the FULL prize to get the game and even paid the DLC and all is now gone and sunsett. Thats dissappointing. And a lot of people are still furious about it. And here are some reason why: - The best pvp maps are in content vault Meh - The whole Red Legion story is in content vault It’s weird that in a sense, we are on destiny 3 since the base d2 game no longer exists - The best planets (Io and Mars) are in content vault. Mars was cool because ot all the shit u could find... io had whisper - The best strikes are in content vault We literally don’t even have all the strikes as nightfalls currently.... - The best raids are in content vault Levi and sotp were the only quality raids Eater was a 6 man dungeon Spire was dreadful Crown wasn’t awful but it’s over reliance on the witch bowl things that liked to glitch out wasn’t fun - The weapons we can still get in Forsaken and Shadowkeep campaign are SUNSETTED They somewhat and extremely poorly dealt with that - Unique strike based weapons like the horrors least are unavailable after the last patch and also SUNSETT! Bring back unique strike based weapons only and the old nightfall playlist Horrors least isn’t available because we haven’t had the corrupted as a nightfall since beyond light came out I think - Story based curated rolls aka unique weapons you get only once are also SUNSETTED like petra venjs pistol Pull it from collections - The currently pvp maps are shotgun maps. Everyone is forced to play shotgun because of the shit design of the maps. For example the moon maps. No wonder if everyone plays Fellwinter Lie Some very much are but others can use any weapon and do better then a shotgun - Gambit gets boring after few time and 1 month playtime because its alway the same maps. Make more maps and bring back content vault maps Just remove gambit and put back reckoning - For new players: they cant get nightfall, world and raid emblems also they never got a chance to play those activities!!! I’ve been here since beta and I don’t even have all of them...come suffer along side me - After 4-5 months i play this game every week, the game gets kinda boring. BECAUSE OF CONTENT VAULT. You wanna make new content but you also REMOVE content. Thats not a good idea. The game is just a grind now. The only thing that makes fun are raids and Nightfalls. I hope with Witch Queen, content vault is removed!!! We wanna play ALL activities that Destiny 2 ever got. A lot of people quit the game because of this. Seasonal Stuff is good but if we remove Beyond Light and Seasonal Activities the base game would be EDZ and Nessus with 0 Missions. And maybe Reef and Dreaming City if you buy a still over priced DLC where you only got SUNSETTED weapons except you play the Dungeon and the weekly missions. Make the dlc maybe 5€ and im sure everyone would buy it Uh ignoring the dungeons, gos and last wish still exist and last wish has one of the best weapon sets we’ve ever had...and that gos pulse is **kisses fingers*** magnificent - About shadowkeep WHY THE -blam!- ARE THE WEAPONS STILL SUNSETTED???! Its also an over prized DLC that brings you nothing except a low storyline and some exotic but the normal weapons like the Tranquility are still sunsetted. And the dlc is one of the "newer" one. So this weapons are unuseable for new players that are playing this dlc and endgame contend Most of those even if not sunsetted aren’t viable in general - the best thing you, bungie, said why everyone plays the weapon "XYZ"? Of course we play the meta weapons if the rest of weapons are sunsett and unuseable in endgames. And yes the most of the community plays endgame contend. Imma need the source on that last claim boss - Beyond Light got more bugs then the game was before the whole content vault and sunsetting shit. Eh it had more player friendly bugs at first but got progressively worse - I and a lot of people love your game but if you guys ruin it a lot of people will quit this game and you only got this IP so listen to your fans!!! And i heard that Halo also arent that good as it was back in they days. Halo is fine still if u ignore the idiots complaining about sprint which is -blam!-ing stupid and the false advertising that was the halo 5 pre release info - About Lore and Story. I dont care if you removed the planets because of somerhing stupid called "Darkness". Our guardians controlls now Darkness aka Stasis, so we are kinda resistant against Darkness so basicly there is no problem to revisit the old planets. Also if there is a problem and why you dont tell the player that you are in the past, like playing the old content is just your old guardian and when you play the new content you are in the present. Also the Vex travell through space and time, so why we couldnt either? Travel to the past to play the old content. Like i say before so much potential but you dont use it. I know you wanna make money but why you dont create a masterpiece of game. Its is a great game but it lost his charme because of content vault. New players cant play the old stuff and then they watch old videos of youtube and maybe they never play the game. Because they "see all" and so you also lost more players and potential money. Ya nothing you said here works the way u think it does nor did anything you say make sense - Potential that arent used: Bringing back Venus with a new storyline and why it survived. Instead you bring back just the raid. Wow... The whole darkness in the tower could be used to get back to venus to find something that we need to remove the endless darkness. But nope just killing bosses in a virtual reality created by the Vex. Very creative bungie *claps sarcastic* The darkness isn’t even in the tower unless u count stasis, the vex’s preferred future is no light, no darkness, not shit except for them...we literally had a whole dlc on this...the endless night is savathun/Quiria fault - Seasonal Content = Seasonal Activities all over. Its not very nice. I mean its just the 4th week but still. We got some Parkour tbh thats really cool. I love that. I also love the design of this season, but why you arent create more then that. You have money and the potential to do that!! God are you done I’m starving - About above: i hope we get a sick exotic mission like Presage. Thats the content we love !! Rumor is that a linear fusion rifle is the final exotic this season - Thats just some stuff i have in mind. Just let me work for you guys lol[/quote] Gave my opinion on what you said and for the love that is savathun use ur enter button more, it makes this a lot easier to read

It doesn't matter how much you plead, Bungie is going to do whatever they want. Bring that content back is most likely the last thing they would ever be thinking about. See, Matter, Eververse, and having to show numbers becase of the lack of content, more so the quality of it has been this companies priority for quite some time now. "less is better" so minimal effort is what this game will get with most of the resource going into their other projects. If you can convince them to stop focusing on that stuff that is more important than anything else right now you might have a chance, but good luck with that.

I think people forgot the issue that was: Destiny 1 to Destiny 2. Compared to the transition into D2, we got lucky... We kept most of our stuff, a majority of the D2 later content and our saved progress. I guess what I'm trying to say is look at the reasons why we got D2: Beyond light. Versus D3, and maybe it makes a bit more sense. Besides, as far as content goes, people don't revisit old content as much as you think they do. While its nice to have, new content is way more important for a returning userbase.

They are incrementally transforming D2 into what D3 was originally planned to be, that's why they are removing D2 content. Why they won't just come out and say this, is probably because people would go internet-lawyer on them.

Release Asher!

You think its because these planets got blown up? I still find it weird we had to reset using a Legends tab to access VOG. Was expecting a trippy storyline as to why we could reenter VOG. Going back in time or something.

I feel like they need to take things out more frequently. Since they implemented the DCV, they brought out one destination, two Strikes, and a Raid. That's it. Bungie has said they'll rotate things around with every major expansion, but the game feels so stale with how little is left that I don't think our attention span will last until that happens. Especially since Witch Queen has been delayed to 2022.

The only complaint I have with DCV, is that they removed too many weapons. I get it when it comes to balancing, but just bring back everything from year two and onward aside from pinnacle weapons Recluse etc. Still miss my blast furnace… :(

Right so... Had bungie not removed the planets, it would've made the pyramid ships arrival pointless since they made them disappear. Maybe they are cloaked right now & will come back later on looking different because of the darkness.

You cant go to the planets because they are impossible to find, that was established at the start of bl and no, us wielding darkness does not make us resistant to it, it can still kill us

I met some of the staunchest defenders of sunsetting last week and they had the nerve gall to personally attack me by calling me ignorant after I tried pointing out all the problems to the solutions that Bungie creating with sunsetting and the DCV. The fact that players were not given the choice in deciding what weapons they want to keep when new stuff comes out because of how sunsetting was executed was the giant middle finger that they gave to players for all the time and money players had spent farming for guns and god-rolls in the game. Bungie is artificially conflating and inflating their content. They have been doing this for years, but I and many others could look past all that I get enjoyment from grinding and collecting the best pieces of gear in the game. But because of the DCV but more importantly sunsetting it bought to light all the issues and fundamental flaws of Destiny 2's gameplay loop. Many veteran players got shafted because of this and many simply left and never came back to the game.

If they wanted to remove old content to make space for new content, they should have released Destiny 3. Instead we lost a huge chunk of D2 content and gained very little while being stuck with a now ancient game engine. So basically we got the worst of both worlds so that Bungie doesn't have to put in an effort into developing a new Destiny. It's way cheaper to just keep milking the D2 money cow than to make a new game, and now they can use those funds into making a new IP before ditching Destiny all together.

When they do eventually start bringing them back, will they expect us to pay for them again? I bought them back when they were still on disc, it's been that long. Better be on gamepass at least.

Ah yes, a list of reasons why you dislike the fact they removed the statistically least played content. However, have you actually looked into why they removed it? [spoiler]Hint: It's not because they just felt like it OR because they care about the player's storage space[/spoiler]

Now what’s funny is that I’m pretty the reason most things got vaulted is because no one played them and the game was getting too bloated. Plus if you think that any of the raids that got vaulted were “the best” you’re wrong

The annoying thing was that they removed the content based on low play times. Well yeah, if we can't replay story missions they'll have low playtime. If the armor and weapons from year one places doesnt have random rolls low playtime. If old raids dont drop useful gear, low playtime. Bungie made content irrevelant and inaccessible and then complained about its low playtime as justification for removal.

Even if Bungie wanted to bring all the stuff back, they couldn’t because there’s not enough memory in the game to sustain that amount of content we previously had. Did you forget the main reason why they went down this route in the first place? There was so much shit in the game they had no room to add anything else, everything loaded slowly, and they needed to cycle it out in order to give us new releases like Beyond Light in general. At launch, the game ran 10x faster than before. We literally never realized how much all that junk was crippling the load times. At least from the narrative perspective I think it’s a good thing, since it’s like “the darkness consumed the planets so they no longer exist” makes it feel like we’re a part of an actual story for once. With that being said, we may as well get used to it because there’s no way in hell they’ll have any way of reverting any of this even if they wanted to.