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10/5/2019 12:41:05 PM
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Shotgun warriors they need nerfing
Shotguns should slow a players movements down and have less range the new crucible maps aren’t well catered for this type of meta behaviour run and gun shorty players are the scum of crucible that show a clear lack of skill for actual gun play. I do not use shotguns in PVP I don’t have the character mobility for that with my PVP main but it’s getting pretty bad. Matchmaking is horrendous as usual placing me against the same team more than once and also placing me in games where it’s 6 v 3. I hate the new crucible tabs and I believe that clash should count as a base playlist when your working towards weekly rewards engram that is a absolute disgrace to the player base how ruined you’ve made the game the health nerf in super mean I can only usually get one kill now as a warlock gg bungle
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The only outliers for shotguns are precision frames. They have the max OHK range of aggressives frames (8 meters) with none of the downsides (slow handling and slow fire rate). But that's 8 meters. Any fusion in the game can kill outside of 8 meters. The Last Word can kill outside of 8 meters. SMGs can kill outside of 8 meters. With the right map awareness and positioning, any primary can kill outside of 8 meters. There are a lot ways to deal with shotguns. The easiest is probably a well timed grenade followed by primary shots. The nerf you mentioned would make them borderline useless. Nothing in the game should be useless. Period.
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Closing the gap is really easy in this game. That's why shotgun warrioring which is already brain dead easy is made even easier. You have to have map awareness, high enough mobility to back pedal in time before they simply pull the trigger once to instakill you, you need to position yourself in a non CQC area to get in enough shots before they collapse on you. The game favors simple playstyles with simple, over tuned weapons. Max range shotguns (which are easy to aquire), the Jotunn, the erentil. All require little effort to use and yields a substantial amount of reward. Which is why most of the player base gravitates towards them. No fuss, no muss.
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3 RepliesI nerf shotgunners with my Wizened Rebuke.
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Shotguns are fine. The problem is our mobility. A hunter with a shotgun can close the gap between him and you faster than you can kill with your weapons. The small maps and 6v6 dont help either.
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Yeah, it sounds like it’s more of a problem for you and other potatoes.
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Your awareness and primary shot need a buff. Shotguns are fine.
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1 ReplyWith the crucible the ways it’s been since the last year or so, especially with all the abilities and weapons available to you, if you can’t shutdown an ape within 9-11 meters (and that is god roll Dust Rock range, mind you) you’re just as bad.
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1 ReplyIts literally so easy to counter shotguns
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5 RepliesI dont have trouble, being killed by shotguns.. [spoiler]close range mostly from the back when I dont pay attention[/spoiler] Snipers that is a different story.. Before shadowkeep some matches being killed by snipers... But now around every corner, people are "OP one shot kill sniping".. Did Something change about snipers that i missed?
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9 RepliesQuickplay matchmaking blows but you can help yourself out by quitting during the matchmaking screen if you see fireteams bigger than 2 guys. The game is going to be terribly lopsided and will completely waste your time.
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Of all the PvP issues you bring up shotguns? Refocus.
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1 ReplyIt's not so much shotguns as much as map design. Too many are congested and in close quarters.
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3 RepliesShotties are pretty balanced tbh. You only get killed by them so much because they are simple and easy so everyome has one and because you probs don't take note that people have shotties and work you way around them. Ill tell you what needs a nerf high impact fusions
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[quote]show a clear lack of skill for actual gun play[/quote] I agree. They really highlight how bad you are.
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🤦🏼♂️
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1 ReplyEdited by milpunk13: 10/5/2019 2:50:48 PMCan’t stand shotgun rushers either, but it’s part of the game so I learn to live with it. Pro Tip: Cerberus +1 is a good counter against this style of gameplay. Whenever I get sick of being OHK shoulder charged or shotgun rushed, I swap to Cerberus +1 for a game or two to refocus my chi (lolz).
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Mad cuz bad
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Sounds like a you problem.
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people still cry about shotguns in this game? thank God you dont play Battlefield or God awful CoD where shotguns are more realistic to their range and damage
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Honestly fusions and snipers are more annoying for me personally... shotty easy to counter
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Mad cos bad
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Fusion rifles exist man unfortunately 🤣 try one
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Lol muted
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nerf shotguns you're funny
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