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Edited by TheMeddler777: 10/9/2018 1:30:16 PM
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Simple poll. How many think comp should be doable for non top tier solo players?

yes: competitive playlist and glory ranking advancement should be doable as a solo player

2211

no: competitive playlist should require a team for successful advancement

641

Star the post regardless your opinion. I want as accurate a poll as I can get. [spoiler]I think the majority of solo players have made their point on the forum that bungie never reads, so if you disagree say why[/spoiler] I personally think that the current system requires no skill at all. I think the only way to really judge skill is to do so solo, and that to accurately judge someone's skill we need to remove the team aspect and bring back assists as a separate bracket. But that's just me. What do you think? [spoiler]I don't think that we should only have solo for Comp, but we need a change[/spoiler] Edit: I've had to edit once already because of technicality, so let's put this fair, explain your vote regardless of what you choose. I personally do not think one skill can be judged in a team with the current mechanics in place. Comp is based on skill, so why is that not reflected? Reiteration: the number of replies and stars is what it takes for bungie to see this. Just polls taken won't be enough. Even if you don't have a comment please star it if you want them to see it. Thanks [spoiler] yay more edits[/spoiler] Edit number 3: it's really sad I have to say this but there are children amongst us who can't keep thing mature. I will tolerate disrespect towards myself to an extent. I will not tolerate it towards other members. Be respectful or don't be here at all. [spoiler]any day now bungie[/spoiler] Edit number 4: I'm not a new player by any means. I've been playing destiny for a while. I've seen some ups, some downs, quite a bit of it all. Don't come in here expecting me to not know what I'm talking about. Don't do that to yourself. [spoiler]let's change it up a bit from edits[/spoiler] Can anyone tell me why comp is meant for teams?[spoiler]last edit I do believe[/spoiler] The majority of comments that don't involve point changes is simply have a solo que. Put solos against solos, and teams against teams. Thanks for playing guys. It's been fun

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  • It’s so hard to be 15 and 0 one round as the best player on your team and lose the next 5 rounds. Loosing twice because I’m on a 3 man squad right off the bat and 4 out of those 5 were against 4 stacked and the other one I’m the best player on my team but the other solo team has all really really good players. I understand if I’m trash every round but the inconsistencies are so tough to get past when the climb to 2100 is so punishing as it is. Just make things more consistent and I’ll be happy with the results. I go from Superman one round to a pile of crap the next just because of matchmaking.

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  • We need a solo queue.

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  • Edited by Killa Karizma: 10/10/2018 12:06:00 AM
    Soooooooooooooo…..I did something….I completed my solo grind for the notorious Luna’s Howl. Yes, an average PvP player such as I solo’d the whole questline and finally got it after about a week. With all the stacked pre-made fireteams and the many losing streaks, all the blueberry frustrations and my rank points fluctuating so much, I felt like every step I took forward, I went backwards 20 more. However, with some patience, a little luck, and keeping at it, I am now a proud owner of this hand cannon. I know I know, many probably think I’m full of it, but I really don’t care. This was somewhat of a journey that I wanted to take alone, and so I did. I mean, I guess you can look up the stats, but it will show you nothing but days of solo grinding, and a decline in my overall efficiency rating lol. I was constantly monitoring my rating as it plummeted but somewhere along this awesome experience I stopped caring and just played for the purity and fun of PvP, and honestly it helped me play better, and started to play the way I play and not be so passive. So to answer your question, Comp right now IS doable for an average Solo PvP player. I will say that you lose more than you win running solo. Suggestion for Bungie: Make a solo competitive lobby. But we all know that probably won't happen.

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    • I've had a few matched solo v solo, no stacks, and it's been fantastic. Think I did have one full stack but ehh oh well. Loving those games though

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    • Amazing more than 2k players vs 600. Nonetheless i know it is not representative of the whole universe. But alas it gives a good idea of how things are working for soloes.

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    • I did it solo and don’t want a solo que, just use team coms or team chat(if on pc)

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    • As the final bits of salt settle down from players, know that I don't care. I really don't. I set out to make a post big enough that it would be seen. And the people who took the time to read and tap the screen have spoken. Sorry teamsters, you've lost. This being said, nothing will change. Or at least nothing to the extent that it has been voiced on here. But who knows. They see the feed back given and they might change something. All that matters on my end was that I ran the poll, I argued a point, I shot down false claims[spoiler]to those of you who have truely soloed to the luna congrats, you are the top tier player that we don't feel we should have to be but do aspire to be[/spoiler] And have my results. What bungie chooses to do with them will be on them. Take care

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      If solo players used ingame chat ....... problem solved.

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      • [quote][quote]1) Of all games I play Destiny is advertised and clearly is designed for group play in every aspect. I’m a ‘loner’ player myself and never play with friends or clan mates I just use the Xbox lfg for everything. I do it to raid, you can do it for your team too, it literally takes minutes. 2) Same reason you cant choose your playlist-Destiny has serious problems with lag. The more fractured the player base the longer the match times and the worse the connections. 3) It’s not quite as simple as solo cue vs teams because what do you do with groups of 2 or 3? If you match them against premade teams how is that fair by the same logic? In fact it will discourage people from playing with their buddies to avoid stronger competition. If you allow groups of 2 r 3 in solo then it will encourage teams just to run with 1 fewer person. You don’t want to make the main way to grind punish people playing with their friends. 4) There are terrible teams and good teams why should the raid group playing a few pvp rounds have to face off against those grinding wins? 5) I’ve seen such a playlist added in other games, even D1, and it never fails too well population wise. —- The solution is have skill matchmaking. Just like halo and gears and overwatch and basically everything. It doesn’t even need to be fancy, just basing it on win/loss is good enough. You climb the ranks until you top out and then that’s your skill level and you play people in that same bracket so you are winning about 50% of games and most are close. This way you won’t be getting stomped by anyone and if you do, it’ll be just once as they climb higher above you. The rank doesn’t need to be visible or anything just you have to match people on skill to get even matches. Even this solution will strain the load times and the connections so it’s not a simple fix to a problem. Honestly you can get better or join a team. I solo in destiny and halo and I did in gears too- you can still play with your teammates and if you’re getting frustrated you need to realize you can fix the problem on your end very easily.[/quote][/quote]

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        • People just want Comp to be like Quickplay just because they want Lunas Howl or Not Forgotten.

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          • A. Please, tell me three games with a solo queue B. [i]Teamwork makes the dream work[/i]

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            • Edited by Synge_X: 10/9/2018 2:09:32 PM
              Doesn’t care about people enough to invest the minimal time required to put together a team. Expects other people, many of which who have zero issues with putting together a team, to care about having Bungie spend valuable development time catering to your specific sensibilities. Got it.

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            • Let’s be real here- your KD suggests that you wouldn’t do any better in 1v1. You would immediately start crying about how sweaty it is, just like you’re crying here.

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              • I think you should just stick to single player games

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              • Edited by Unbreakable Patches: 10/8/2018 8:39:51 PM
                It’s already doable. Comp is meant for teams because... y’know... playing competitively requires the coordination and cohesion of... Uh.... your team..

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              • Edited by ConnivingEagle: 10/7/2018 8:31:04 PM
                Correction: How many think comp should be doable for [b]trash[/b] solo players? If you're competent, you can do pretty well as a solo competitive player at least until mythic. After that, well, if you don't have a team, there's this resource known as LFG that Bungie created for people that don't know anyone or have friends to play with. If you have social anxiety or some other pathetic crap like that, well sorry, tough luck. Not everyone is meant to get their hands on Luna's Howl.

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                • Raids are the pve equivalent of competitive, they require a communicating team for the optimal experience so why shouldn't comp?

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                  • There should be a solo queue playlist. Either that or have team chat auto-enabled instead of having it so players have to opt in.

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                    • A guy grabs three mute strangers from the park for a pick up game and can't understand why he repeatedly loses to the local club team. The game is clearly biased against solo players, lol

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                      • It should be doable as a solo, but the reason it’s not is more to do with matchmaking than anything else. I get that solos will inevitably have to fight a team, but it seems like it happens way too often for it to be fair. If that aspect of matchmaking got tweaked a bit, I think it’d totally be possible to solo at least to 2100

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                        • Bungie don’t listen to them! Casuals are ruining this game. Don’t give in Bungie! They only want Luna’s howl and not forgotten the easy way. (Participation trophy)

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                        • You cant blame people for taking advantage of being in a fireteam and communicating to each other. It is a team playlist. However if u want true solo player skills. There should be a free for all game mode. Im a solo player and i personally dont care that i go up against a group of players in a fireteam. Just adds more of a fun challenge. I dont care about winning just shooting at people

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                          • This may offend some people or be an unpopular opinion, but that’s because the majority of these poll votes are from people who will never reach Legend in comp. Of course, the comp playlist should be difficult for unskilled solo players. Comp rewards are End game rewards for dedicated and skilled pvp players. Teams are basically required to reach Legend just like teams are required to earn pve Endgame rewards. Some people just will not earn these rewards because of skill.

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                            • I personally think there should be a solo queue for comp and quickly.

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                              • Is it really that hard to find a team?

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                                • Isn't the whole "problem" a case of problem solving on the players part? Let's say you wan't the Luna's Howl and you don't have people to play with, you are not skilled enough to go in solo and you are not willing to LFG (which i perfectly understand as most people are toxic as hell imo); so what do you do? Do you recognise your mistakes in the crucible and actively try to get better? Do you look for a clan that can aid you in your pursuit? Do you accept that the Lunas Howl and Not Forgotten are reserved for people who can and/or are willing to commit to the grind? I know that matchmaking isn't always fair and that you get potato teammates occasionally, but the best place to start is usually by looking at yourself. I'm not a top tier player, and by some people on this forum i would probably be called a bad player, but i grinded for Lunas Howl for the last 3 weeks both solo and with teammates. Finally, i just saw on the Charlemagne bot that Luna's Howl is ranked as the fourth most used energy weapon this week in crucible - so i doubt it is as hard to get as some people claim.

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