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[quote]I'm reading through the " This Week at Bungie - 6/23/2016" and I just get the overwhelming feeling that Bungie is focusing their attention on irrelevant things. The first thing that stood out to me was "We tried something new to help you find your friends in the activities you want to play." I haven't seen to much commotion about "finding friends" in-fact this is a redundant update as you could previously see where your friends where by checking the roster. Furthermore, who cares about "finding friends" the majority of players in destiny want customs, I want to find my friends in customs, whats the use of "finding friends" if we can't play against them? C'mon Bungie. Why waste time updating such useless stuff, I just don't get it. DeeJ then explains why for "science" purposes they made updates to the blade dancer, and gunslinger. Which is just more proof they don't even play crucible enough to even understand the dynamics. Gunslingers and Bladedancers did not "reign supreme", I'll explain my take of it shortly. First, they showed a graph from only 6v6 playlist, this is the first mistake. Roaming supers in a 6v6 are always going to dominate for that exact reason. You can "roam" while in them. It doesn't take long to figure out that you're going to average more kills as a blade dancer or gunslinger in a 6v6 playlist opposed to a striker titan, bubble, bow, or nova. Thats just common sense. These classes aren't "reigning supreme", they are offensive roaming supers. Again, C'mon Bungie. It makes little sense how there are 6v6, 3v3, and the occasional 2v2 playlist, and the rational behind updating and entire class is based off of information gathered from just one of those categories? Moving on, they go to explain " When one Class becomes the default choice for anyone who wants to do well in the Crucible, we see that as a problem. We chose to bring the Hunters down from their position of dominance because it is our hope that every variety of Guardian will have a fighting chance." I mean at this point it's evident they don't play crucible. No one was complaining about bladedancers or Gunslingers? I just don't understand the "science", the data is exactly what I expect it to be, for the reasons I mentioned previous. In 6v6 roaming offensive supers will be dominant. Thats just obvious, absolutely no one had the mindset that blade dancer/gunslinger guaranteed a win. Just doesn't make sense. I understand the thought process but it just doesn't coincide with what actually goes on in crucible. Play your game like the rest of us, get an actual feel for the game, and learn what is a problem and whats not by experience and not spreadsheets.[/quote] Nah bro, hands down the most illogical nerf was to the bladedancer melee perk "escape artist". Tell me this. If, according to your own logic for most of the other changes, you want to make the options more balanced so choices are more about preference than anything else, why nerf "escape artist"? Nobody uses it, let alone complains about it. Literally the only time people used it was as the swordrunner on Crota in year one...

Lmao...yeah...I needed a good laugh this morning.

They should call the people not the balance team nerfherds because they herd the nerfs of every thing into the pen called the crucible. P.S.: Get this Star Wars reference do you?

Also, did Bungie state they were nerfing incendiary grenades? I guess it was a ninja nerf since before patch I was doing 7 damage for 3 ticks. Now it is 4-5 damage for 4 ticks. Any reasoning behind that?

It's becoming painfully obvious that the people in charge of the game are like virgins on prom night: playing by feel and hoping for the best with no real clue of what's going on.

Personally I think they put things on a dart board to nerf and blindfold deej to decode what to do next

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Nerf. NERF IT ALL! - Bungo

Bump! Well said!

I agree completely Bungie is not communicating with the Community (especially people in the community who have clocked in more hours in the Crucible then their crew has) about how to balance the game but rather are relying on statistics that should be taken with a cup of salt. Correlation is not causation. Things are much more complicated then a few cheap statistics. What kind of players are playing certain subclasses or weapons? Is a subclass or weapon powerful all the time, or only in certain combat scenarios? How does it compare to other subclasses, classes, or weapons? What is the community feedback? It would seem that Bungie makes their nerfing calls based on individual cases often involving really skilled players. It's a mystery why they haven't nerfed the No Land Beyond based on their nerfing logic (the average player stinks with it, but skilled players are very lethal with it). Please Bungie I implore you to talk with the community before you call the shots.

What I took from that graph was that the classes in the middle are the most played giving them a wider spread of K/D while Gunslingers and Bladedancers have a smaller spread of people playing them so mostly the people who have developed a lot of skill with them are being represented. Seriously I barely ever saw any of them in PVP, it was all Nightstalkers. Bubbletitans makes sense in this regard too since it is a class with a high skill cap so people play here and there trying to figure out how to even play it in PVP.

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Thank you! +1 internet.