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1/16/2016 7:45:28 PM
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Bungie, Can You Nerf Shotguns? I Mean, They Have Had 4 Nerfs And Nothing Has Changed

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No

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Less Range On Shotguns & Not As Much Damage Dealt

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shotguns on this game are easy to get kills with, they are cheap kills and just every annoying to play against on crucible. i know everyone who votes no will be the ones who use shotguns but at least realise that shotguns are very easy to get kills with. any noob can pick a shotgun up and use it like a pro. try using a sniper and realise the skill it takes to use a shotgun.
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  • Why? The point of shotguns is a ohk in cq. It's like saying thst snipers can't do that much damage very far.

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  • I think shotguns are at a good place right now. Their might be a couple that push the range limit but for the most part I'm happy with shotguns range right now

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  • real shotguns could pick you off at the distance some hand cannons are used in this game. A shotgun in cqc is more than fair.... I would recommend a sidearm, they're great counters

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  • shotguns are meant to be close quarters beasts if your using a sniper or fusion rifle make sure you can back up if you're rushed.

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  • Edited by DuplexGorilla53: 1/21/2016 4:26:15 PM
    You have condemned your own request. Here it goes. "They have nerfed them 4 times" That means the approach is flawed. How many times do I grit my teeth at players running snipers as primaries or side arms as primaries, or telesto as a primary. Get the picture. the issue isn't shotguns, or snipers, or side arms, or even poor old fusion rifles. the issue is special ammo. Here is the solution you are not willing to see because you likely run your sniper as your primary and really just want your weapon to be more OP than it is. The real solution is no one spawns with special. Not at the start and not when you respawn. Secondly the crates pop up half as often. The crucible is saved. Again this won't suit you cause you simply want to main your sniper in piece. Which I hate to tell you is the most boring crucible in the world. Oh and man the kills at the crates would be sooooo (special)

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    • Not cheap at all imo. If you're not using one yourself then perhaps you should try harder to not get close to those that are. Signed, a sniper.

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    • Edited by EasyDread: 1/21/2016 4:57:04 PM
      The only shot guns that still remain problems are party crasher and the forever tainted conspiracy theory d. Other shot guns unless your super close won't kill you at the range these two shotguns do. The balance is almost right at the moment between faster firing less impact shotties against the slower big hitters. Any one saying they don't get sniped by these shotguns are lying, they can and absolutely do still kill at longer distances I have a party crasher I know..... Invective.... hmmm I'd say leave it alone as it's an exotic on the basis your sacrificing your truth but.... The regen ammo makes that point moot. I'd still be inclined to say leave it because you do have to two tap players unless your spamming final round. In short I'd like to see range slightly increased on the faster firing shotties and reduced on the big hitters. Then your making a choice, get up real close and personal for that ohko or have a bit of space and see if you can beat that fusion rifle or side arm. Sounds like the ideal to me. Before any one says snipers snipers... well if some one quick scopes me I get mad but.... it happens, I do it to others. Sometimes you make that shot other times you don't and you lose I don't really have an issue with snipers.

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    • I agree, haven't seen a noticeable difference with shotguns

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      • Oh just please stop whining and crying about shotguns. They already nerfed to the hell because of kids whining like a little girl such as you. Stop it moron

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      • My god, please stop crying about weapons. Bungie, can you nerf the cry babies.....please?

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      • Dude they've been nerfed a lot. In PvE they don't do nearly as much damage and in PvP I have notice less one hit kills with them. You need to learn how to use them better, or stop running straight into someone

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        • They aren't OP. I get one shot outside of my susanoo 'a range sometimes which is a little annoying but they aren't op. -Fusion rifle guy

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        • It's been Nerf'd 3x already. ITS A SHOTGUN... Get over it and stop your whining.

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          Personally I think there is no fixing a shotgun where it can still be useful but not OP...

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        • Shotguns aren't the problem, it's the map and the mobility of the character that is.

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        • Enough nerf. I know shotgun is very annoying to deal with but you need to get good and stop crying. -Sniper User

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        • Because hitting someone from really far away with a 1-2 shot kill weapon takes more skill than getting in close. I hate how when people on these forums simply die from something they cry for a nerf on it.

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        • Edited by Karma Crimzin: 1/21/2016 5:58:32 PM
          Shotguns can kill from a lot further of a range than people think.... Shotguns are fine most people die from them from lack of attention to their surroundings. Especially if they are using a sniper nerfing shotguns for a 5th or even a 17th time won't change that. These post need to stop and people need to adapt running around without looking around them. The whole thing about snipers taking more skill is stupid they are both skillful weapons one take patience and timing and the other makes you have to think on your toes to flank and out maneuver the target you want to kill. That's how shotguns are meant to be played not to be only effective at a titan punch range so people can do whatever they want. It's stuff like this that got the PvP in this game to the state that its in now to much complaining and crying not enough adapting and learning.

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            • Umm, shotguns have changed dramatically after the last nerf, anyone still complaining about shotguns needs to understand that it's not the shotgun, it's you.

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            • Its a shotgun.. what do you expect? Rangefinder isnt that op anymore. You can just walk backwards if the shotgun is coming at you or jump up. Many counterplays my friend

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            • Those no votes.... Lmao

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            • Remember the halo shotguns good times. I just wish they got rid of range finder too

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            • I see what you're saying, and I don't like shotguns either, but I think the nerfs were a little overkill. I know that people will probably attack me for this, but I think shotguns should two-shot. Enough impact for two blasts to kill, and not enough for a shotgun-melee. Shotgun-melees are pretty unskilled, and I harbor much hatred for those who developed that as a reflex. It's cheap. If you were to do this change, it'd help a ton. Now, a buff would be in order too. Give them much more range than we have now, and near its max range it would three shot to prevent things like Fourth Horseman from being the tool of shotgun rushers everywhere.

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