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Edited by J Stevensontown:
1/1/2016 5:27:28 PM
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Do you think range finder & shot package ruined shotguns?
Edit - been having zero issues managing high impact/range shotties with range finder in I.b. been having a lot of fun!!
I primary shotties.
Those 2 perks are why people complain so much about shotties.
& partially why other shotties took a huge beating
What do you think?
Edit - I think the following should be done to make pvp perfect, obviously just my opinion
Everything is almost perfect, but
Hcs 4-5% stability/accuracy increase
Ars 1-3% damage increase
Frs 2-4% stability, range, & charge rate increase
Shotguns given back their movement & readying speed
Sidearms 5% increased reload & movement speed while wielding
Snipers 50% aim assist reduction. Get knocked out of scope when hit by x amount of bullets depending on weapon impact
Storm caller land fall damage reduced just barely enough to not insta kill an enemy in super will full health, & destroy a defender bubble, reduce range of storm trance lightning by 5-8%
Sun breaker to have same nades as sunsinger
Nightstalker to have same nades as defender .
*now make these changes = balance weapons, and reduce all weapon damage by 2% just so it's a tiny bit more challenging to get kills* ( I'm expecting hate for this comment lol )
Buff all supers and abilities in pve
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#feedback
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1 ReplyEdited by garionlrpg: 1/1/2016 6:20:35 AMPlease stop suggesting more than a .04% increase to ars. Blah blah it's complicated/not my department. Also burmp.
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The cry babies who asks for nerfs makes this game terrible.. You know who you are!! Lol
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No other options. It's the best so people gravitate to the best option I only use conspiracy theory right now. I say being back reforge and hurry the fck up about it.
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That the two perks stacked extended the shotgun range from point blank to absurd distances, leading to the issue of getting shot with 1 hit weapons before you had a chance to react.
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Shot package was slightly broken. I didnt have one for the longest time and when I finally got one I noticed a change in my K/D IMMEDIATELY. but I think lowering the base range for shotties by a significant amount would have fixed it.
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4 RepliesMy Conspiracy D with Rangefinder is better than any other shotty that I've used and I had all of the most op ones with good rolls.
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1 ReplyI think felwinters, matador, party crasher, and conspiracy theory ruined shotguns. Shot package/rangefinder wasn't the problem: case in point a dry rot with shot package is better than one without it but it's not going to be sniping anyone anytime soon. The fact this archetype was allowed to exist in the first place baffles me. The fact that it was allowed to continue to exist astounds. The fact that they made party crasher a year 2 drop and gave everyone a god rolled conspiracy theory makes me give up on life.
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1 ReplyI 100% agree with this post. Super bump
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What ever you think it'll balance the game won't work because of these words of wisdom. [b]"remove one thing and another shall take it's place"[/b]
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1 ReplyI think blink ruined shotguns. Hunters and warlocks spammed the shit out of it until they got nerfed. Bu then it was too late, and now people bitch constantly when they get killed by one. Just wait, all the jackasses feeling cool about snipers and the bullet magnetism are gonna get sniper rifles ruined too.
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23 Replies[quote]Do you think range finder & shot package ruined shotguns?[/quote] No. I think crybaby bitches ruined shotguns. I think children who've never had to deal with losing ruined shotguns. I think petulant kids who've never been taught coping skills ruined shotguns. I also think Bungie ruined shotguns by nerfing across the board. The shotguns during HoW were awesome. Bring that back.
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1 ReplyNo crybabies ruined shotguns
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1 ReplyEdited by TheKungLao: 12/29/2015 8:11:55 AMI agree with everything in your edit about the buffs to the respective weapon classes, J, ecept for the sniper rifle part. If they nerf snipers, and this is a big if, they only need to increase the amount snipers are staggered when they are taking fire. Besides, if they buff the other secondaries, there will be no need to nerf snipers. This is coming from a guy who mains shotguns. I totally agree with your take on the buffs though, just had to say that again. Nice job J.
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1 ReplyWe can all do without range finder, and a 50% reduction to snipers AA seems fair.
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1 ReplyThis forum ruined shotguns.
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1 ReplyI agree with everything except the overall reduction in damage. If it didn't affect PvE, I would agree with it all.
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1 ReplyPVE - No PVP - Yes the whole problem with weapons in Destiny is that it is impossible to balance it between PVP and PVE. To be honest, PVP needs to be sepparated with pre-set loadouts. PVP nerfs caused fusion rifles and shotguns into being very weak in PVE. Then they buff the Thorn for PVE back in the day and it was awesome, but guess what? in pvp it was Overpowered. its a neverending circle..
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I think the ever crying whiny bitches ruined shotguns. I've been killed by shotguns. Is it the guns fault or mine cause he got close enough to kill me with it? Mine. Some people just suck and can't handle the fact that they suck.
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There are a few things that I agree with and a few that I don't one I agree with is NERF THE DANG STORMTRANCE
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Nope, Bungie ruined shotguns.
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I think that it's fine with them being gone, shotguns can still be op if you have a good roll and just like snipers. They are for a certain skill level player. Bungie just took them away hoping that the community would stop complaining but instead it turned into a bigger riot because now the community wants sniper nerfed or mida nerfed. It's a never ending one way street for bungie and as much as they try the community is going to keep complaining and making empty threats to go play cod or halo.
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4 RepliesNo it is the felwinters lie like shotguns and other low fire rate shotguns that were the problem
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4 RepliesYes. Both individual perks and especially the combination ruined the image of shotguns and resulted in getting shotguns needed incorrectly. They should have simply took away shot package and rangefinder, then left shotguns alone. It would have been fine then.
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5 Repliesremember warlocks dont have a insta kill hamer so no nades to u
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15 RepliesNo, they didn't. They simply pissed people off who love to run-n-gun right past blind corners. Plus, shotguns got a horrible reputation due to their association with blink. While blink was effectively nerfed, shotguns retained the reputation as OP.
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10 RepliesEdited by Lost Sols: 12/28/2015 6:48:32 PMNope. There are still posts calling for shotgun nerfs. Bungie could literally make them only effective within a foot and some baby-ass whiner will come cry they're OP when they die to one. Honestly I've barely posted the last couple days because I'm so -blam!-ing sick of all the stupid -blam!-ing nerf posts.
