[quote]I have been gaming since Infidel, Ultima, Island of Kesmai, etc....Long before most of you were born. In fact, I have shoes that are older than most of you. I have played hundreds, if not thousands, of games, including almost all of the major game franchises on all of the major game platforms. Not bragging. Just stating.[/quote] To start, I've been playing video games since the intellivision. Just so you know how old I am. [quote]What Bungie is trying to do with Destiny is not totally new, but their effort to create a tight synergy with their users and a rapid development cycle to incorporate user input is really pretty unique.[/quote] Not really. Most games that I've played recently have been listening to the players and taking their input into account. 2k games was pretty excellent about listening to their gamers. What they do isn't unique. [quote]Given the resources it takes to keep support and development allocated to this approach, the real question is can they make the business model work. (Queue the silver transactions).[/quote] It worked for the entire first year. Why introduce microtransactions now? [quote]My feeling is that most young people these days are too petty and ignorant to notice the subtle differences between something like Destiny and Borderlands/Farcry/AssasinsCreed/WoW/Falout/Blah/Blah/Blah/Etc...[/quote] Oh, I'm pretty sure that they do notice. That's why they're playing those games now instead of this one. [quote]Do you notice the frequent dialog updates from the voice talent in Desitiny? "No, man, the dialog sucks, but I listen to music while I play...". Yup, our "intelligent" youth in action...[/quote] Umm, the dialog DOES suck for the most part. The only good dialog is Cayde-6 during the storyline. And your "quote" is a little stupid. If you're listening to your own music thru the console, the voice dialog isn't muted. Just the crappy background music from the game itself. [quote]"Naw, man, game XXX is much more awesomeness". OK, how short is the path between you and the developer? Do you get weekly updates, course corrections, and tweeks? Of course you don't. Do you care?[/quote] Maybe game XXX doesn't need weekly tweaks, course corrections, or updates? Borderlands 2 had maybe a handful of tweaks and update patches [quote]I am not saying that Destiny is the best game I have ever played, but I do feel that its bold approach to direct player input for gameplay adaptation is hugely underappreciated, and ultimately, is the future of gaming if the business model can be worked out.[/quote] The only thing that I can see as "direct player input" is them nerfing everything in the game because pvp players keep crying about weapons that are killing them in the crucible. CoD had nerfs, but they were pretty much balanced and needed. I just don't remember there being a new nerf/update every week. Destiny seems to destroy different weapons at random simply because they're being used a lot. They haven't figured out how to properly balance the pvp without demolishing pve. Hell, Guild Wars did it right. I wish developers would take a page from their book. [quote]My opinion is that, sadly, Bungie is trying to sell its nascent, manual, "game AI" to an audience that simply doesnt have enough of an attention span to appreciate it.[/quote] What? [quote]"Flame on"[/quote] Oh, I'm sure it'll happen. :)

Completely agree 100% although the people you're referring to aren't intelligent enough to comprehend this so esentially, your words are going right over their heads. For the idiots this post is directed to, in a nutshell, you're more interested in the 'shiny' games as opposed to understanding the positive and innovative direction destiny is heading in. You much prefer large titles with lots of explosions that don't take much of an attention span to enjoy. You are tragically/ laughably unaware of what makes a good game.

What a condescending puddle of putrid bile. Have you considered acting your age? P.S. I've been gaming since Kerplunk, Mousetrap, Escape from Colditz, etc. Long before the first pixel graced the gaming world. Does that make me better than you?

What was Jesus like?

I agree since Deej is the only community manager I know, I've never watched a reveal stream, for example, with players of the community, and I did with Destiny. But you shouldn't expect much smartness from a popular fps multiplayer game forum, although it has some rpg fans (it's prejudice, I know, but Final Fantasy players are smarter than COD players)

Sounds like you are unintelligent. How would you not praise Fallout over Destiny? Moron.

What you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.