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10/21/2015 3:56:03 AM
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Without Hammor Of Sol (in its current state), what do Sunbreakers have that is cool and unique?
Nothing
No shadestep, blink, extended range melee, grenades that follow you, self rez, tripmine grenade, bubble, or shoulder charge.
If HoS gets nerfed the rest of the skills are going to need to be heavily modified
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The jump, fusion grenades, melee that has an AoE
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I find incendiary grenade paired with their jump/melee is a dead combo when not super charged. They're still more than able to hold their own w some good gun play.
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17 RepliesHow to fix 1: Make it so that the HoS Hammers can't one shot every other super in the game but still one shot regular people. 2:Make it so that instead of Cauterize recharging all health make it regen a portion. 3: Lower armor so it can at least be killed by a direct rocket or sniper headshot. Flame Shield activated ready for sun breaker hate
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2 RepliesThe only thing that needs nerfed is the armor so they die from a golden gun shot or a high impact sniper. You shouldn't have a super that is nearly unstoppable. It's ridiculous. Everything else about the super is fine. Armor NEEDS a nerf.
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You just said Titans don't have a bubble or shoulder charge...ever heard of defender and striker?? Year 2 noobs..
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That melee is a one hit on low armor builds
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We have Saladin.
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Edited by Xtake a breakX: 10/23/2015 1:54:01 AMYear one Titan Defender main: (Clip 1) Saved heavy, Killed every one, Warlock self-res, suppression grenade to the face, No more super for you . :D http://xboxdvr.com/gamer/Xtake%20a%20breakX/video/8037465 (Clip 2) Golden Gun on Heavy !!!!! O never mind lol http://xboxdvr.com/gamer/Xtake%20a%20breakX/video/5599871 (Clip 3) O Sh!t ,FOH, Well that just happened http://xboxdvr.com/gamer/Xtake%20a%20breakX/video/4385391 unique you ask , now you know
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Melting point, fleetfire, thermite grenade, and simmering flames. All are cool, all are unique.
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I don't think they're gonna need them into the ground right away. I think it'll be an armor reduction and that's all to start. Don't worry you'll be fine. Just watch out for snipers.
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Well the bubble and the self res you listed are also supers can't really count those I'd you aren't counting sunbreakers super. But the health regen on melee, grenade, and super kills is a nice little perk. Fusion grenades are good. A damage over time melee is good. Titan skating Melting point (like the tether but doesn't require a super) Instant recharge on melee with a melee kill Bonus agility and reload speed from melee, grenade, and super kills Faster recharge of melee and grenade when super is full That is a very good class outside of super. It just isn't a flashy perk like blink or shadestep.
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5 RepliesOff the top of my head: 1) Health regen from grenades and melees. 2) Faster grenade and melee recharge when super is charged. 3) Fusion grenades 4) powerful melee with burn + a damaging sunspot or significant armour reduction 5) highest jump or titan skate 6) an agility and reload buff for grenade and melee kills Sound to me that the real problem is that you've been relying so much on the super that you've failed to explore the other perks properly! :p
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I don't understand, without a super any subclass would be worthless
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"All we have is the most op super in the game!" Wrong Stupid
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2 RepliesEdited by Azzurrius: 10/22/2015 5:05:16 AMThe Sunbreaker sub-class is very much centered around the Hammer or Sol. Yeah, I get pissed off when getting killed by it, but when I'm using it, I understand why it needs power. The Super is almost the only thing that this sub-class has that is truly viable. So, I see both sides of the coins on this issue.
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Said excluding HoS, all the arguments about HoS good job guys.
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12 RepliesI feel like it's bad in mayhem Whenever I use it everyone uses their super and gang up and instantly kill me ...y no1 liek sunbaker
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I agree, bungie really needs to be more creative with subclasses instead of throwing in a god mode super because they don't have any good ideas.
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66 RepliesDo golden gun kills regenerate health? No. Do golden gun shots & nova bombs track? No. Can we shoot more shots with an ability? No. Can we live through practically anything? No. Can we fire while running? No. Can our abilities charge faster with supers? No. Get lost, kid.
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Melee can make enemies take roughly 50% more damage for a bit excellent for golgoroth. Sunspots have very good dps in many situations.
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Melting point, can heal instantly from a grenade kill, thermite grenade.
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[i]PLEASE[/i], titans, stop with the "we were the weakest of year one" That's such a stupid pity party excuse. AEGabriel, who spent months as second place on the crucible leaderboards, used only a striker titan. If striker is good enough for that to be possible, they weren't bad, you're just bad. I'm aware of the fact it was partly Gabriels skill that got him up there, but honestly, have you people ever tried to titan skate? Makes striker the most OP thing in the universe.
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2 RepliesSo true...so true. Titans were the underdog for all of Year 1. Now that they get something that competes with shotgun range melee, purple nuclear bombs, and @$!#in blink people throw a fit.
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Thermite grenades Amazing melee that's DoT Huge health regen when getting a kill with any ability Creates huge fücking sunspots after an ability kill Massive speed recharge of abilities Best jump/fastest movement I probably missed a few things
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The only time when I get passed about it is when the same sunbreaker kills me twice
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2 RepliesTitans finally have a subclass that can contend with the warlock and hunters but everybody is like omg what class is that they've never been able to be this good in crucible...if i got a health nerf so it could be one hit by a sniper to the dome id be fine...i main a titan
