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Edited by will322001:
12/23/2015 9:27:01 PM
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Why Sunbreaker isn't OP
Golden gun is the exact same thing, only easier to use. It has a faster TTK due to the thing that kills you being a bullet, I think better perks as a whole, more agility, and a cooler class item. The reason it doesn't feel like it is a 50% damage reduction on Sunbreakers is because Titans all focus armor, while other classes focus on regen and agility. Some people need to stop complaining and know that a super is meant to be OP. Here, I can do it too. "Oh my GOD I was like 5 yards away from that Shadow Shot and I still died!!! OP! Bungie, nerf it!" See. Not cool.
Edit: Sorry! I should have put Golden Gun instead of Blade Dancer in the Poll. My bad. Discuss in the commets.
Edit 2: Well the nerf hit, and it hit hard. I'm making a new post called "Did they Nerf Sunbreaker Too Much". Check it out/Vote/Discuss
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Not complaining but I was playing crucible earlier and popped my bubble with armor of light and another Titan popped his HoS and first thing he does is rush in and kills everyone in the bubble with one hammer, I have max armor spec lol it was too funny. He started Baggin' then I switched to HoS and put it in his pooper.
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[b]The real reason HoS isn't Op[/b] Every class has a roaming super with extra damage resistance. Oh titians have more, I guess that's what that extra armor they can equip is for. It's got GG range, last I checked GG only had to worry about damage fall which it can pretty much nullify. Hammers have a drop, which will have you miss cause u didn't throw it high enough. Hammers do too much damage, they also cost a lot of super gauge. It last too long, again cost a lot of super gauge per hammer. Too many hammers, yeah they keeping missing or getting dodged. Guess that's how you balance something that has travel lag, arch, and 3rd person view, you don't expect the impossible 3 hammers as good as 3 golden gun shots. It survives a sniper head shot, what part of highest defense class mixed with damage resistance added up to easy as killing arc blade. It survived a golden gun shot, it's a super too! jump and throw a knife if you don't want to waste another shot. It can heal on kills, come on now this isn't anything new.
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Why the hell do these posts keep popping up. The sooner all this crap stops the sooner the class war ends.i main a hunter but titans need to be a tank. They deserve to have this super. And it should not be nerfed. Shut up and deal with it
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1 ReplyGolden gun has 3 shots. The breaker has like 8, and impenetrable armor
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2 Replies*55% damage reduction. Get your facts straight before presenting them in an argument.
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33 RepliesTitans have more mobility than hunters while in their super, much more armor (golden gun gets none) and more killing potential with multiple hammers.
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1 ReplyNo it is not because Titans just have more armor that is incorrect. The game files show all other times supers have a damage resistance of 50% except hammer of sol which is 55% which may not seem like a lot but that 5% is the difference between golden gun and high impact sniper head shots actually killing The super has... almost double the up time as golden gun, has 6 "shots" that heat seek then detonate with grenades and horse shoes with the blast radius of a shattered nova bomb, insane damage that instantly shuts down every single other super in the game (including ward of dawn which takes two golden gun shots to kill), Every hit puts a damage over time component that lasts the same as a Viking funeral gernade, Every kill which 90% of the time is any hit regenerates your health at double the speed of red death and hungering blade, you have enough damage resistance to survive arc blade, golden gun, storm trance, radiance hits, and fist of havocs/ nova bombs unless they directly hit you, and every where your hammers hit plus where you throw it generates a sunspot that gives you an over shield then applies a dot to enemies plus heavy damage. The rest of the subclass is op too. The melae is a one shot to low armor builds. Cauterize effects all abilities Controlled lift allows you to titan skate making the most agile class in the game Has 3 grenades that are among the top teir grenades ... The list goes on It is way more op than blade dancer was in its hay day. Concerns from a Titan Main
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1) Golden Gun users have no damage resistance. 2) It is very difficult to rapidly use all 3 (maybe 4) shots of your Golden Gun effectively. 3)Titans having very high armor is not at all a problem for them even with lower other stats. 4) If supers were supposed to be OP then why shouldn't my super be able to kill everyone in the match and immediately recharge after a shotgun kill. Because that is OP.
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1 ReplyI don't think you understand how TTK works. Titan hammer and golden gun both one shot, which means it has the same TTK.
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Well here's the thing. You have zero understanding of anything. And also, you are completely wrong. Plus, you went full retard. Lastly, wtf are u even trying to say in your argument.
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Wait a minute. Wtf is going on here. A Titan main defending sunbreakers. What?
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Bladedancer is better!? From playing all 3 classes, I can easily say that Titans have the best pvp super right now. It's the longest lasting, can easily get the most kills, gives you health after each kill, gives you crazy damage reduction, and stops every super in its tracks.
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Golden Gunners get no boosts to armor or agility, sunbreakers have more hammers even if the hunter has the Symbiote. They get agility and armor buffs plus they can regen to full health
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This is where you messed up, sunbreakers get more shots then golden gun/nightstalker And its way better then blade dancer, so i think your just a titan fanboy/fangirl
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That's cool. So let's give the Hunter seven golden gun shots since Titans get seven hammers that kill off of proximity. I forgot to mention that hunters should have damage reduction while in golden gun since the Titan gets it as well.
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Thats the problem you said it yourself its the same as golden gun but with the damage resistance of radiance and health regen of blade dance and six or seven hammers instead of the three bullets a golden gun gets how is that not op.
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9 RepliesTitans: TITANS ARE THE TANK CLASS SCRUB! [spoiler]but we can move the fastest[/spoiler] [spoiler]jump the highest[/spoiler] [spoiler]have the best recovery passives[/spoiler] Titans: hungering blade op, pls nerf [spoiler]unless we have an upgraded version, then its alright[/spoiler] Titans: omg fusion grenades Op [spoiler]unless we have it[/spoiler] Titans: arc blade is too hard to kill, running isn't an acceptable strategy, it's a roaming super that I have to shotgun melee to take down [spoiler]unless we have it, and it has a ranged attack with more armor, proximity, tracking and an upgraded hungering blade, then you just need to learn to adjust bc you are scrubby [/spoiler] Titans: glitching a super is bad in PvP [spoiler]unless it's our super, then we're cool with it[/spoiler] Titans: lol hunters are so whiny [spoiler]we were only just expressing our frustration for the last year everywhere, that's different[/spoiler] Titans: we have no melee abilities at all! [spoiler]except for the ohk melee with a 3 second cool down that has health regen on kill, that doesn't count, even though it's counted as a melee, it's not, bc I wish to feel undervalued[/spoiler] Titans: WE ARE THE MASTER CLASS\RACE [spoiler]unless I want to be underpowered, then we've been undervalued to far too long[/spoiler]
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It's op as shit if I dont get a 5 kill streak every time I use it there's somthing wrong.
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I'm not against Sunbreakers I'm just putting this out there. Sniper headshot damage: Regular: 417 Blade dancer: 209 Nightstalker: 209 Sunsinger: 209 Novabomb: 230 Hammer of Sol: 189 Golden gun damage: Normal: 437 Bladedancer: 219 Hammer of Sol: 197 I post this on every hammer of sol post... More proof: [url=https://www.bungie.net/en/forum/post/164259388/0/0[/url]
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Only thing op about it is the shield/armor. It's hard AF to kill them unless you have a sniper or sleeper. Well in my case.
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24 Replies1 Titan hammer kills a gg in gg mode 2gg kill a Titan in hammer mode Titans get 6ish hammers, hunters get 3gg shot How is gg equal? (Notice I left out all the armor buffs sun breakers get and its still overwhelming in sb favor)
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2 RepliesI agree people say that the sunbreakers are over powered look at the hunter and warlock for a minute the wrecked people in PVP with the arc blade, golden gun and void walker and Titan had a stupid shield and they never had anything good for PVP. For the all the warlocks and hunters I say suck it up Titan gets a good PVP subclass and everyone thinks it's over powered well you guys had your fun Titans had the most hard time getting ability kills yet warlocks and hunters got it done in one game. So if your complain about sunbreakers being over powered think now that's the only good PVP class Titans have hunters have 2 amazing classes for PVP and a decent one warlock have 3 really good PVP classes. If you say sunbreakers need a nurf well it's just as well th nurf golden gun, arc blade, storm trance, and void walker so just because Titans are actually good in PVP now apparently they need a nurf well it's just as well for bungie to nurf all the other classes for all the caricatures. Stop complaining about sunbreakers it's time for Titans to shine in the crucible.
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1 ReplyEdited by Gamboa Wins: 10/24/2015 3:56:22 AMBiased lol Edit: the dude only has 1 level 40, 3 guesses which
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1 ReplyYou lost all validity when u said sunbreakers wasn't op because hunters have cloaks
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golden gun isn't easier to use just go play mayhem it's primarily sunbreakers and storm trance which is actually better than sunbreakers when used right
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2 RepliesTitan Sunbreakers are fine, they're fair because they are a "Breaker" they were meant to be powerful to even up the battle or help win it
