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Edited by DaDestroyer81: 9/18/2015 3:15:53 PM
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Nobody is really being locked out of content

Let me make something clear here. Nobody is being "locked out" of anything here. Nightfall, ToO, weekly, daily, heroic modifiers, etc. are not being taken away from you because those are FEATURES. Nightfall changes to fit the latest level cap and that is now 40 so OF COURSE you wouldn't be able to play it anymore because you don't deserve to play it if you didn't buy TTK. The weekly and daily have to change now too because people who don't have the DLC cannot play a daily TTK mission as they did not pay for it. Trials of Osiris is not actual content that you paid for because it comes every weekend. It is not always there, therefore it cannot be classified as content. You cannot play ToO anymore because it is a changing feature. Heroic modifiers are not being taken away either. The highest level maximum to do this now fits into TTKs light level system so you should not be able to play it unless you bought TTK. Crucible still has 3 classic modes to play without DLC so you are not being deprived of that either since all modes have fit into TTK. To sum up, nobody is being locked out of CONTENT. You no longer have access to FEATURES because they are always changing to fit in with the newest content. Edit: Trials wasn't taken. Most people in trials will have 290+ light, if they have TTK. without TTK the people will have 170. 170 cannot compete with 290. The people without TTK wouldn't even damage anyone. Edit 2: 700+ comments! It's funny seeing people trying to fight a losing battle here. Thank you to all the people so far who have bumped, liked, and agreed with this post. Edit 3: Everyone's title screens now reads "Destiny: The Taken King", so legally speaking this is a brand new game in which Bungie is no longer supporting the Vanilla Destiny. All of their updates are now being focused on Destiny 2.0.
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  • "Nobody is being locked out" Then why are there actual images of locks on half my content that I paid for?

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    • Thank you for participating in the "destiny 10yr market test project" 1: Sell as little of original game as possible (check) 2: Sell held back content as dlc (check) 3: Sell new dlc at cost of a complete game (check) 4: Restrict non ttk players access to enforce sale (BIG check) 5: Quietly restrict account access on certain consoles, enforcing multiple purchases for one family (check & high five to legal team) 6: Ignore posts with credible questions, hope apathy kicks in, continue with new improved "Highwayman" business model..

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      • You're absolutely right guardian! How dare I pay for a full game, pay for 2 expansion packs, and not pay for TTK and honestly expect to be able to play what I purchased?! How stupid was I to actually expect there to be actually worth to my purchase?! Damn you're too right I don't deserve to play my game... I don't deserve to enjoy my purchase as long as that CEO doesn't get his third mansion. Thank you for enlightening me, please feel free to jump into a volcano :)

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      • Edited by Zachariel86: 9/23/2015 5:26:13 PM
        Huh...the amount of stupid in that post was pretty amazing. No no I'm impressed. You sir win the stupid award. *Slow clap*

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      • Bump! People are expecting just to get all the content with out paying for DLC's and expansion. This game is always changing. How can you not expect to get locked out of everything when you didn't pay for TTK like everybody else did. TTK has completely overhauled destiny so now every single thing is being merged together. Either your going to have to stop complaining and get the expansion or stay locked out of this game. This is year 2

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      • Isn't your break over destiny employee? GTFO with your reasoning.

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        • Muted for being stupid

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        • What if I bought how strictly because I wanted to do the lvl 32 strike playlist? what if that was my jam? Bungie said buy this you can play it. No where did they ever say, "but if you don't buy ttk we will take that same thing you just paid for away." You could say I paid for a specific "FEATURE." An advertised feature at that. That is bullshit and you can't argue that away with semantics.

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          • You are a idiot they have locked us out. Not being able to play the stuff you already payed for is called locking out and robbery.

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          • id like to be able to select which version or dlc to play and play that only, therefore people who bought whatever can still play the game as it was. i know thats not how this game works its just a thought.

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          • Bump

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          • Lmao damn bruh still 37??? Weak 😂😂😂

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          • Edited by Rmtrx: 9/23/2015 10:46:17 AM
            They added the TTK title screen so what do they expect from us to believe? That we play a demo of TTK and we have to buy TTK in order to play the full game? They forced us to update our BOUGHT Vanilla destiny and they converted it to a DEMO TTK ? This makes no sense! Please!

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          • Most insane fanboy post on the Interwebz? Just because you are playing semantic word games defining elements to suit your crazy doesn't mean you have anything close to resembling a point.

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            • Idiot

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            • Edited by lethal blaze: 9/18/2015 3:12:07 PM
              Strike were changed Vendors were changed Factions have been basically locked out of Raids are pointless How has been made pointless Tdb has been made pointless Nightfall has been restricted Weekly have been restricted Daily have been restricted Changeling the difficulty on capagjn missions has been restricted Choice has been removed from crucible Rewards have been removed entirely if you don't get the recent pay wall. So please redact everything you said change your name to I was wrong and go to you corner to contemplate how stupid you were. You may have an opinion on the new content but you cannot blatantly lie about it being a pay wall to of content. Edit: to clarify nightfall existed before the dlc so forth you paid for it adding a new playlist is fine retrofitting a old one is thieving only a fool or child that's a fan boy can't see that.

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              • Edited by Rmtrx: 9/23/2015 10:41:51 AM
                [i]'Let me make something clear here. Nobody is being "locked out" of anything here. Nightfall, ToO, weekly, daily, heroic modifiers, etc. are not being taken away from you because those are FEATURES.' [/i] Features, content, you can call it whatever you like, but these XYZ were purchased so we expect to have them fully functional. [i]'Nightfall changes to fit the latest level cap and that is now 40 so OF COURSE you wouldn't be able to play it anymore because you don't deserve to play it if you didn't buy TTK. '[/i] We did not ask to play Level 40 activities but to keep playing Level 34 activities. I think we deserve the right to play these 34 level activities. From what I remember we had payed them with real money back then. [i]'Trials of Osiris is not actual content that you paid for because it comes every weekend. It is not always there, therefore it cannot be classified as content. You cannot play ToO anymore because it is a changing feature.'[/i] So because it is not available everyday it is not considered to be a content? Nice logic you have there. So what is it ? a ghost content ? [i]'Crucible still has 3 classic modes to play without DLC so you are not being deprived of that either since all modes have fit into TTK.' [/i] we did not ask for a cocktail of crucible matches. We want the separate lists exactly as we had been using for all these months. When I want to play control i want control in my playlist. Not clash rumble etc. We are being locked out of content AND features to answer with your own terminology. Do not do discrimination and do not play with words. Nightfall L32 is a feature of the game that lets you have access to the C O N T E N T of the ..nightfalls! clear ? 1. Nightfall L32 is a feature sold with HOW and TDB 2. Nightfall L40 is a feature sold with TTK. We want 1. back. as simple as that! [i]'Edit 3: Everyone's title screens now reads "Destiny: The Taken King", so legally speaking this is a brand new game in which Bungie is no longer supporting the Vanilla Destiny'[/i] You cannot say it is a new game. It expands the base Vanilla Destiny with some missions and new armor and weapons. Again wrong assumption.

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                • Which is exactly why leveling should not be locked behind a paywall. People below lvl 40 cannot purchase gear from vendors. They can no longer complete weekly objectives. They can't even equip some of the gear they loot through engrams. These 'features' you speak of are actually all part of the core destiny experience, cutting people off from content/features they purchased is wrong. Not to mention that a lot of people probably intended to purchase the DLC eventually but since there is currently no reason to put the disc into the console they may never bother. Not that it matters but I have the dlc btw.

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                • Being stubborn doesnt make you right. New players paid for DLC that they simply cant benefit from like we did. AND in most cases didnt get a deal on that DLC price-wise. Its has been chopped up and basically discarded for TTK. It bewilders me how so many asskissers on this app go out of there way to defend Bungies business practices. If you enjoy having your wallet fisted by these greedy douche nozzles then more power to you.

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                • Edited by Boom: 9/23/2015 8:14:50 AM
                  https://youtu.be/bD80DQv2o44 watch this video. The problem isn't the features being taken way. The problem is that people without TTK are stuck doing level 20 strikes, original level missions( can't upgrade the difficulty) just watch the video. Lost Souls says it all.

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                • R u -blam!-ing dumb?!? I'm guessing u HAVE taken King , and have had is since the launch, well guess what, those who haven't got taken King yet have to suffer , we can't buy shit coz we can't get legendary marks , my self and lots of other players who don't have taken King yet can't even do night fall or weekly or even play some games of crucible ,

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                • Edited by julianwelton: 9/18/2015 2:24:18 PM
                  [quote]Let me make something clear here. Nobody is being "locked out" of anything here. Nightfall, ToO, weekly, daily, heroic modifiers, etc. are not being taken away from you because those are FEATURES. [b]I mean you did have access to them since their release and then lost access after TTK... but... but you aren't locked out, I swear![/b] Nightfall changes to fit the latest level cap and that is now 40 so OF COURSE you wouldn't be able to play it anymore because you don't [b]deserve[/b] to play it if you didn't buy TTK. [b]I mean again its something that has always been available to you but you didn't give them $40 for their private island fund so you're on their naughty list! Bad, player! Give them more money, now![/b] The weekly and daily have to change now too because people who don't have the DLC cannot play a daily TTK mission as they did not pay for it. [b]Although now that I think about it I guess this all could have been avoided by giving non buyers a couple different playlists.[/b] Trials of Osiris is not actual content that you paid for because it comes every weekend. It is not always there, therefore it cannot be classified as content. You cannot play ToO anymore because it is a changing feature. [b]I'm going to second guess myself again here and say ignore everything I just said! That was the ranting of a lunatic. I mean ToO was advertised as part of HoW for gods sake! How could it not be something you paid for? Regardless of that it was something you had access to and now you don't. This probably also could have been simply solved with a playlist now that I think about it.[/b] Heroic modifiers are not being taken away either. The highest level maximum to do this now fits into TTKs light level system so you should not be able to play it unless you bought TTK. [b]Scratch that, TTK doesn't have a light system. I just remembered the new light system is part of the 2.0 update available to everyone. They just locked everything behind xp level 40 and gear level 40, which is only available via TTK. That's kinda the exact definition of locking people out hmm.[/b] Crucible still has 3 classic modes to play without DLC so you are not being deprived of that either since all modes have fit into TTK. [b]I mean I know it forces you to play game types you may not like or even hate just to get to the ones you do like but its kinda the same.[/b] To sum up, nobody is being locked out of CONTENT[b].... except you people that didn't buy TTK... you are.[/b] [/quote]Fixed. You're welcome.

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                  • Changing the title screen does not make it legally a new game.

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                  • https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=bD80DQv2o44

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                  • However, if a player has already paid for those "features" then they have a reasonable expectation and legal expectation to have access to them. They paid for them, thus they own them. If Bungievision alters the game, that does not negate the players owned access to them.

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                    • Edited by TheArtist: 9/18/2015 1:30:29 PM
                      [i] "It is difficult to get a man to understand something when his salary depends upon his not understanding it."[/i] ----Upton Sinclair. IOW, RARE is the person who is able to genuinely understand something that directly goes against what is in their indvidual self-interest. Bottomline: YOU ARE ABSOLUTE RIGHT. But you are wasting your time with this crowd, because it is NOT in the individual interests of the whiners and the haters to understand this point. ...and all you will get for attempting to get them to see beyond that self-interest, is personal abuse, and getting called every name but the one your mother gave you. But that is what happens when you try to reason with selfishness and entitlement. You're going to find that it is IMMUNE to such things....and anything is "fair game" in their desire to get you to sit down and shut up.

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