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Edited by Shambles: 1/18/2015 5:21:06 AM
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Is Xur RNG?

UPDATE* Just before I started I just want to say that I was lucky in my guesses. Now! http://www.bungie.net/en/Forum/Post/92432127/0/0 In response to Sam Legacy and Xur not being RNG Deej " Sam Legacy is not a member of the Community team at Bungie. That's just me and Urk. If you want to verify official comments from a Bungie employee entrusted to speak to you on our behalf, always ask to see a badge on this forum. It's blue. That said, your collective enthusiasm and speculation about what Xur is carrying is awesome. EDITED FOR CLARITY. " ALSO I talked to my Maths Tutor today and we were talking about Randomization and the possibility of a pattern for the example below: If a shopkeeper posses 7 items that he sells only one of at a time is it possible to work a pattern if it is NOT Randomized? He responded with very unlikely. The chances of finding a pattern aren't likely. If he already choose inventory then it would be like this: December he sells 5,4,4,7 January he is GOING to sell 5,7,1,4 There is no way to know this. If he randoms the numbers then BY CHANCE you can guess them. BUT if there is indication. For example in the case of Xur: If he is selling a Special Weapon this week you have 3 choices. 1/3 chance of getting it right. So there is a chance of finding patterns in the way he sells. For example Xur USED to sell Primary, Special, Heavy, Primary, Special, Etc. But this is how it is: [P]Red Death [H]Gjallarhorn [P]Suros Regime [P]Red Death [S]Ice breaker [H]Truth [P]Suros Regime [S]Patience and Time [H]Truth [P]The Last Word [P]Mida Multi-Tool [S]Plan C [S]Plan C [H]Truth [S]Patience and Time [P]No Land Beyond [H]Dragon's Breath [P]The Last Word [S]Ice Breaker So with that conclusion, It SHOULD be a Heavy Weapon next week. Dragon's Breath Gjallarhorn Truth Thunderlord 1/4 chance for any. But my guess is Truth OR there is a chance* it will be Primary 1/7 chance for what you want. My guess is Suros Regime Peace Next weekend for Xur's First 2015 Sale: Heart of the Praxic Fire Don't Touch Me The Glasshouse (P) No Land Beyond (S) Ice Breaker (H) Dragon's Breath Here is week 2 of guesses Possibility One (Algorithm 1) Red Death OR Plan C Apotheosis Veil ATS/8 Arachnid No Backup Plans Possibility Two (Algorithm 2) Universal Remote OR Patience and Time Skull of Ahamkara Crest of Alpha Lupi Helm of Saint-14 Possibility Three (Algorithm 3) Mida Multi-Tool OR Plan C Claws of Ahamkara Crest of Alpha Lupi Helm of Saint-14 I'm only going to run 3 Algorithms this week. The reason why I didn't give a heavy weapon is because I don't believe it will be 2 in a row. TECHNICALLY it should be another Primary weapon based on the past since DLC came out. Algorithm 2 is the Algorithm I used last week, Algorithm 1 is the new and revised one and Algorithm 3 is just a simple one. I really hope Algorithm one is really close, It is a more fair and well balanced Algorithm that looked nice and performed well. Time will tell. I personally wouldn't mind a Red Death :)
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  • Na. Bungie chooses them because they do not like selling op weapons. I even heard they pick out our nightfall loot individually as well and laugh at us in our despair.

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    • Nope it's rumored that bungie chooses what xur sells no rng with him at all.

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      • no, but i heard....xur is....a member of the.... illumo0nitarties.

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      • Truth 18,15,6,5,13 Ghorn 3,8,16,12 Tlord 19,7,4,17,11 DBreath 9,14,10,2,11 2,8,12,19,2,9 Dragon's Breath Apotheosis 38,44,27,42,18 Claws of Aham 15,23,41,30,12 HOTP 36,19,29,2 Light Beyond 7,8,9,26,4 Obsidian 31,37,14,40,17 Skull of Aham 34,11,21,13,3 Starfire 20,16,28,24,22 Sunbreakers 39,1,25,43,5 Voidfang 6,32,35,10,33 28,9,4,32,35,19,44,30,40,42,37,43,12,14,2 Obsidian Mind Symbiote 2,17,25,38,27 Arachnid 32,35,16,28,24 Alpha Lupi 37,34,19,26,6 Touch Me 33,8,12,39,7 Knucklehead 40,31,10,36,45 Raspberry 30,18,22,1,11 Third Man 43,44,13,14,21 Dance Machine 20,5,15,4,29 Ahamkara's Spine 23,9,42,3,41 32,33,38,35,33,17,11,33,13,13 Don't Touch Me 2 Skullfront 35,37,27,42,5 3 Alpha Lupi 41,21,22,8,16 8 Inmost Light 34,7,26,4,10 5 Saint-14 1,31,24,36,40 6 Mk.44 38,6,39,17,2 1 Backup Plans 32,33,23,30,15 7 Ruin Wings 20,25,18,28,12 9 Armamentarium 44,11,43,13,9 4 Glasshouse 45,14,19,3,29 23,12,21,16,29,38,44,39,18,16,6 Mk.44 Stand Aside Helmet 14,12,11,3,13 Chest 4,9,1,7,5 Glove 6,2,10,8,15 9,8,12,5,2,2,3,8 Glove Engram This is off a more randomised algorithm where the items are assigned random numbers (Not just 1,2,3,4,5,6,etc). This also follows a 5 number Algorithm. These numbers are not edited and this is what I am randoming with Random.org using sequences to get the numbers assigned to the item and Integers to get the RNG numbers which determine the item to be sold. As you can see I modified HOTP and GHorn based an the assumption they have lesser RNG chances then other items based on the history of XUR. As you can see we now have 4/5 instead of 2/5 and this is done AFTER Xur came out. I am going to use this algorithm against past sales of xur and see what results I can come up with and see if the math adds up. Until Bungie releases something saying that they choose the items I am to believe it is RNG as I am able to get the same results almost entirely with RNG formulas. I am going to be looking for patterns to see if I can find something a bit more concrete then RNG numbers each week.

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        • You must be fun at parties

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          • Edited by TheLastGunslingr: 1/3/2015 3:20:07 PM
            Yesterday there was someone hub-bub about some poster, Sam Legacy, who predicted Xur 11 weeks in a row. There's a video of him showing the message he gets from insider. Here's the thread. https://www.bungie.net/en/Forum/Post/88966832/0/0

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            • I highly doubt he's all rng.

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            • Too much time on your hands

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              • Nah, there is team of nine in Bungie who decide his inventory. That's why he is Agent of the Nine

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              • Well i was going to say something but I forgot while scrolling down this list of #'s

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              • No hes nota

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              • Man my head hurts now, can you guess when the next time xur will stock the gally?

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              • Holy shit that was correct

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                • WORDSWORTH: One plus two plus two plus one (1+2+2+1). MISS SCARLET: Ahah, there was only one shot that got the chandelier. That’s one plus two plus one plus one (1+2+1+1). WORDSWORTH: Even if you were right that would one plus one plus two plus one (1+1+2+1) not one plus two plus one plus one. MISS SCARLET: Ok, fine 1+2+1…. Shut up! Point is, there is one more bullet left in this gun and guess who is going to get it?

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                • Bungie picks items for xur not rng

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                • Baxter you know I don't speak Spanish, in English plz

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                  • Whats next week

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                  • Holy crap... What witchcraft is this?

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                  • Run your numbers what will he have next week? I want to know is it worth me grinding for strange coins ?

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                    • Just an update. Yesterday I tried to date xur back 1 week and it kicked me from the servers. I tried 1 month and same result. Same happened for 1 year. It turns out that bungie have stopped xur from being able to be back-dated, I wonder why?

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                    • The numbers Mason! What do they mean?!

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                    • Xur is not RNG

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                    • Not random, been proven.

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                      • You missed a Titan helm called the eternal warrior

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                        • Edited by SVDurLIFE: 1/4/2015 3:00:52 AM
                          What is going on. All I see is numbers

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