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Edited by Shambles: 1/18/2015 5:21:06 AM
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Is Xur RNG?

UPDATE* Just before I started I just want to say that I was lucky in my guesses. Now! http://www.bungie.net/en/Forum/Post/92432127/0/0 In response to Sam Legacy and Xur not being RNG Deej " Sam Legacy is not a member of the Community team at Bungie. That's just me and Urk. If you want to verify official comments from a Bungie employee entrusted to speak to you on our behalf, always ask to see a badge on this forum. It's blue. That said, your collective enthusiasm and speculation about what Xur is carrying is awesome. EDITED FOR CLARITY. " ALSO I talked to my Maths Tutor today and we were talking about Randomization and the possibility of a pattern for the example below: If a shopkeeper posses 7 items that he sells only one of at a time is it possible to work a pattern if it is NOT Randomized? He responded with very unlikely. The chances of finding a pattern aren't likely. If he already choose inventory then it would be like this: December he sells 5,4,4,7 January he is GOING to sell 5,7,1,4 There is no way to know this. If he randoms the numbers then BY CHANCE you can guess them. BUT if there is indication. For example in the case of Xur: If he is selling a Special Weapon this week you have 3 choices. 1/3 chance of getting it right. So there is a chance of finding patterns in the way he sells. For example Xur USED to sell Primary, Special, Heavy, Primary, Special, Etc. But this is how it is: [P]Red Death [H]Gjallarhorn [P]Suros Regime [P]Red Death [S]Ice breaker [H]Truth [P]Suros Regime [S]Patience and Time [H]Truth [P]The Last Word [P]Mida Multi-Tool [S]Plan C [S]Plan C [H]Truth [S]Patience and Time [P]No Land Beyond [H]Dragon's Breath [P]The Last Word [S]Ice Breaker So with that conclusion, It SHOULD be a Heavy Weapon next week. Dragon's Breath Gjallarhorn Truth Thunderlord 1/4 chance for any. But my guess is Truth OR there is a chance* it will be Primary 1/7 chance for what you want. My guess is Suros Regime Peace Next weekend for Xur's First 2015 Sale: Heart of the Praxic Fire Don't Touch Me The Glasshouse (P) No Land Beyond (S) Ice Breaker (H) Dragon's Breath Here is week 2 of guesses Possibility One (Algorithm 1) Red Death OR Plan C Apotheosis Veil ATS/8 Arachnid No Backup Plans Possibility Two (Algorithm 2) Universal Remote OR Patience and Time Skull of Ahamkara Crest of Alpha Lupi Helm of Saint-14 Possibility Three (Algorithm 3) Mida Multi-Tool OR Plan C Claws of Ahamkara Crest of Alpha Lupi Helm of Saint-14 I'm only going to run 3 Algorithms this week. The reason why I didn't give a heavy weapon is because I don't believe it will be 2 in a row. TECHNICALLY it should be another Primary weapon based on the past since DLC came out. Algorithm 2 is the Algorithm I used last week, Algorithm 1 is the new and revised one and Algorithm 3 is just a simple one. I really hope Algorithm one is really close, It is a more fair and well balanced Algorithm that looked nice and performed well. Time will tell. I personally wouldn't mind a Red Death :)
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  • I am not RNG and I'll prove that by saying my inventory for next week: -Titan: No backup Plans -Hunter: Crest of Alpha Lupi -Warlock: Light Beyond Nemesis -Weapon: Universal Remote -Engram: Gauntlet -Heavy Ammo: No

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  • Edited by bwerbwerbhb fbfb: 2/1/2015 11:14:57 PM
    XUR is not random, Deej confirmed. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YLxHKQA-Eew https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YLxHKQA-Eew https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YLxHKQA-Eew https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YLxHKQA-Eew https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YLxHKQA-Eew https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YLxHKQA-Eew

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    • you are a genius!!!! your algorithms are almost 100% accurate! I'm not kidding you've almost got the system down! Keep going!!!!

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    • [url=http://i60.tinypic.com/n54fa8.png ][/url] More proof sam legacy is a hack and a fraud. What a joker haha He is only saying the weapons people want, why does he never say the armour? Because it's easier to work out weapons as they run on a rotating roster and you have a higher probability of guessing 1/4 then 1/7 lol He has crater a following to fund his twitch and youtube and twitter accounts. Minimum wage job? What a joker "The average pay for a Video Game Designer is $54,510 per year." http://www.payscale.com/research/US/Job=Video_Game_Designer/Salary All I can say is, you have been duped haha

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      • Xur is supposedly "supposed" to be RNG drawn from an itemized loot table. A preset to roll from. It's whatever Bungie had claimed initially (I believe , can't remember now) but Sam Legacy had posts "guessing" each gun Xur was to sell . He got 7 out of 7 right . (Hmmm 7, just thought of that, coincidence yet still ironic) In his last post a lot of people were being rude and obnoxious and caused a lot of arguments and got the attention or was about to get the attention of moderators , so he effectively pulled the plug on his post stating that he was not going to do it anymore. He said he had an insider that gave him the gun the day before Xur came so on (Thursday ? Maybe Wednesday) when they knew what gun was going to be sold his informant would tell him and then he would post it . It's the reason that he only guessed on a certain day right before Xur came. A lot of the people on there we're trying to sympathize with him and get him to at least tell which gun was going to be sold for the end 2014. But he did not. After somebody guesses seven times in a row and then admits that he had a leak I seem to think that it's a high possibility that it is preset and mandated and not RNG. Which to me it doesn't matter either way if I don't have the strange coins to buy what I want to buy then I don't get what I want to get. However it's funny that even the real life hacks get patched by Bungie. However I love this game either way . I'll continue to play through its entire existence just wanted to say what I knew...

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        • Edited by Willie Killigan: 2/1/2015 10:48:22 PM
          For the last few weeks I've been on a crusade to prove that the loot system isn't RNG, but simply a number generator. In order for things to be truly RANDOM, things need to be truly equal, and the percentage that Xur will sell Gjallahorn isn't equal with every other exotic on the table, that's evident. In other words you can't weigh the dice then claim the roll was random. But if you throw enough times a pattern will definitely show.

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          • There will be a point in time where xur is useless. Eventually everyone will have bought every exotic they need. Then what? No need to buy from xur anymore. Unless he's selling heavy ammo. What do you do with your 300 plus strange coins?

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            • If bungie controls him why would he sell starfire protocol twice in a row, claws of amahkara 3 times in a row, and sunbreakers like 4 times in a row?

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              • Xur makes up for the lack of player trading.

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                • I think it's going to be the primary auto rifle

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                • Yes, he is. Why? Because Bungie has flat out said he is. People can throw around their misguided probabilities all they want but that does not change the fact it is random. Perhaps it is weighted, but still random.

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                  • No

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                  • Edited by DevilishSix: 1/13/2015 3:28:53 PM
                    Cannot be RNG as on numerous occasions he has sold the exact same item 2 to 3 weeks in a roll and if that is not enough to convince you he has sold the Starfire Protocal for Warlock two weeks in a roll with the same max 155 intelligence. Now I might buy the fact that an item RNGs and comes up the same two weeks and maybe three weeks in a roll, but if it was RNG there is NO way it would roll the exact same numbers. Last week was proof to this Destiny vet there is no way its RNG.

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                    • Fake. 260 damage Ice Breaker

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                      • Xur has these following The Glasshouse Achylophage Symbiote Obsidian Mind Ice Breaker Exotic Shard Upgrades for: Symbiote Lucky Raspberry Titan Crest of Alpha Lupi No Backup Plans Skull of Dire Ahamkara Light Beyond Nemesis Bad Juju The Last Word Plan C Pocket Infinity Thunderlord Gjallarhorn

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                        • Didn't do it this week?

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                          • Also has Scout Rifle, Hand Cannon and Shotgun telemetries as well as Plasma and Stealth Drive.

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                          • Assuming he sold Voidfang 6 or 7 times a row, I would say no.

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                          • Edited by GRIEVER: 1/13/2015 3:23:36 PM
                            No, I control him. Bungie leased him out to me until destiny 2 is released. Basically I'm just gonna set him to sell the following every week unless someone convinces me otherwise: Voidfang Vestments or Sunbreakers - Warlock Armamentarium - Titan Lucky Raspberry - Hunter No Land Beyond - Weapon

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                          • Over the weekend bungie released gun stats.basically what guns are used the most over the last few weeks...i doubt xur will sell the highest used exotics.he will sell the lowest used exotics to try to balance out gun play.think about!!

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                            • Fraud Fraud Fraud. Make a legit post!!!

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                            • So youre way wrong on all of your "algorithms" Lol go figure

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                            • Edited by frerky1 : 1/12/2015 2:37:14 PM
                              No Xur was pre set by bungie before release to sell what and when each week.

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                              • Na bungie chooses the items

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                                • Edited by Neutrill: 1/12/2015 4:00:39 AM
                                  No just look at Sam_Legacy on Twitter Bungie decides every Wednesday and he always leaks the gun for us. He's an insider and his history backs that up.

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                                  • I really don't think he is RNG, he has sold praxic Fire upgrade like 3 times, but never the actual piece! He has sold every single Hunter or titan exotic (pre TDB) and a lot of them 2-5 times! Or the ahamkara, it's just weird to me lol

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